Where can I find 24bit/96Khz music?

[Daniboy]

There is no point discussing this, its subjective, nobody will convince nobody.

For me vinyls are warm and have much more "soul" than digital audio.

If anyone thinks the oposite, you are right for yourself. Thats sbjective

[makar1]

I doubt anyone is cutting off <20Hz specifically for CD and not for vinyl. The range is inaudible, so it is removed when the track is mastered.

Either way, it's not an advantage of vinyl as CD is just as capable at reproducing low frequencies.

[TCMuc]

I doubt anyone is cutting off <20Hz specifically for CD and not for vinyl. The range is inaudible, so it is removed when the track is mastered.

This, plus I'm quite sure a man who had both his arms cut off will be able to count the number of sound systems that can reproduce these frequencies with his fingers.

[jdownesbaird]

The OP is confused. He's arguing two separate (but unrelated, in this case) issues: the "superiority" of 24/96 music versus 16/44.1, and the "superiority" of vinyl versus digital.

If you think vinyl "sounds" superior, that's great, and it is subjective. But its pleasing sound has nothing to do with the original post about 24/96, or with "extra frequencies".

[Daniboy]

The OP is confused. He's arguing two separate (but unrelated, in this case) issues: the "superiority" of 24/96 music versus 16/44.1, and the "superiority" of vinyl versus digital.

If you think vinyl "sounds" superior, that's great, and it is subjective. But its pleasing sound has nothing to do with the original post about 24/96, or with "extra frequencies".

24bit is already solved.
Vinyls, in the other hand, are creating a lot of polemic

[keithace]

This, plus I'm quite sure a man who had both his arms cut off will be able to count the number of sound systems that can reproduce these frequencies with his fingers.

a friend made a transmission line subwoofer capable down to 18 mhz. Definitely felt it.

[TCMuc]

a friend made a transmission line subwoofer capable down to 18 mhz. Definitely felt it.

Ok, so we give the poor man one finger back. I'll just keep the other ones on ice until systems like that become commercially available on a large scale (and get installed in clubs).

[M.Beijer]

No, there really isn't a huge difference, at least one brought on by the bitrate or sample rate. The difference between bitrates literally has nothing to do with sound quality, and cannot be heard by human ears anyway. While a high sample rate only has one specific purpose on one specific part of the digital chain. Both are literally a waste of space otherwise.

in my couch a 96/24 master file of dire straits - brothers in arms sounds different from a WAV file of the album release, in a positive way.
However there is recordings circulating which is just a lesser quality file made into a 96/24 and it will obviously sound the same as the original file. I will not say that everyone should be able to tell the difference, but if you have some good revealing gear most people will be able to. Im not all that mucked up about filequality, this is just what i have heard myself because i was curious about it. I still listen alot to mp3 and even radiostations of lesser quality.

[Shishdisma]

in my couch a 96/24 master file of dire straits - brothers in arms sounds different from a WAV file of the album release, in a positive way.
However there is recordings circulating which is just a lesser quality file made into a 96/24 and it will obviously sound the same as the original file. I will not say that everyone should be able to tell the difference, but if you have some good revealing gear most people will be able to. Im not all that mucked up about filequality, this is just what i have heard myself because i was curious about it. I still listen alot to mp3 and even radiostations of lesser quality.

The difference is in the mastering, not in the physical limits of the file specifications.

[Timbo21]

10hz-20hz

Do you know that 10-20khz are not a frequencies that are well produced on vinyl?

Often -6db/Oct filters are used when cutting, if there is any meaningful Hi frequency, in order to reduce top end distortion on playback and to stop the cutter head overheating and tripping the cutter amps. Additionally similar hi pass low-end filters are used, since very low frequencies take up a lot of space, therefore having to reduce the cut level. Additionally high level low frequencies can make the playback stylus jump out the groove if not cut deep enough, since very low bass cuts grooves that swing out, just as a low frequency sine wave is bigger than hi frequency. So you can understand the need for filtering. Additionally stereo bass is a problem and will make the cutter head stylus cut deep and then shallow, which will make the playback jump. Bass can be mono'd, usually everything under 150hz, if it's a problem, or under 300hz if it's a particular problem.

Ultimately, 10hz is inaudible, and then it starts to be felt, more than heard. Cutter heads have an ACL (acceleration limiter) which limits high frequencies. The higher the frequency the more it limits, for the reasons stated above.

I would say 30hz-16khz is a more realistic frequency range you have on vinyl. Too much very low bass makes for a woolly cut, by adding a hi pass filter at around 20-40hz it can make the bass a lot punchier and cleaner