Behringer CMD Series

[filespnr]

Does it kinda slide around the table and move and stuff when you scratch with it? Fader curve? Does it have touch sensitivity settings? Cause those are annoying. Just put it to where it should be already.

[Stewe]

Lol that would be the lamest surprise ever.

Kid, you still didn't get over a PL-1 page selector didn't you?

[photojojo]

I love how people can so easily compare two completely different things just because they both have buttons.

[MWagner]

Kid, you still didn't get over a PL-1 page selector didn't you?

no, I'm sure its just a coincidence

[oilythread]

Kid, you still didn't get over a PL-1 page selector didn't you?

I agreed not to talk about that any more. I was never cranky about it, I just wanted everyone to be aware of the flaw, so they didn't buy the PL-1 thinking it would logically work in a way that it apparently does not.

And like I kept saying, I'm still all about the CMD line, I'm just not going to fanboy about it and ignore all of the problems like everyone else seems to. I used to be a NI fanboy too until their service model turned to shit...

I love how people can so easily compare two completely different things just because they both have buttons.

You prepared to say there's no overlap of use cases on those buttons? Didn't think so.

[nem0nic]

I still don't know anyone would pick the MM1 for DVS use over pretty much any real mixer. *shrug*

They wouldn't. The MM-1 wasn't going to be any DVS user's option. It's not an audio mixer, and trying to put it at the center of a DVS setup would be hacky at best.

I'd be very excited if the pads had velocity sensitivity and were nice and responsive.

No, it's not velocity sensitivity. The DC-1 is a trigger controller, more similar to a MF than an MPC. That was always the intention. Traktor isn't using that velocity data anyway.

[oilythread]

They wouldn't. The MM-1 wasn't going to be any DVS user's option. It's not an audio mixer, and trying to put it at the center of a DVS setup would be hacky at best.

Is there some connection I'm unaware of between an audio mixer and timecode? I spin DVS all the time with both internal mixing and external mixing. There's no difference. Technically speaking, the MM-1 is no better suited for a non-DVS workflow than it is for a DVS workflow because it's got nothing to do with the control of the decks.

No, it's not velocity sensitivity. The DC-1 is a trigger controller, more similar to a MF than an MPC. That was always the intention. Traktor isn't using that velocity data anyway.

Hmm... Then I'm guessing it is something to do with the remix decks. Unfortunately if that's the case, you've been beaten to the punch now that the remix decks are midi-mappable with any controller. Still would probably make some sales based on ignorance of that fact, though. However, all of those would go out the window if DJTT's new midifighter is announced before these are released, as it's safe to assume it'll be at the very least as well-tailored to the remix decks as the DC-1 and probably within $75 of the price.

[MWagner]

Hmm... Then I'm guessing it is something to do with the remix decks. Unfortunately if that's the case, you've been beaten to the punch now that the remix decks are midi-mappable with any controller. Still would probably make some sales based on ignorance of that fact, though. However, all of those would go out the window if DJTT's new midifighter is announced before these are released, as it's safe to assume it'll be at the very least as well-tailored to the remix decks as the DC-1 and probably within $75 of the price.

lol you realize you're criticizing a feature that you just made up.

[oliosky]

Is there some connection I'm unaware of between an audio mixer and timecode? I spin DVS all the time with both internal mixing and external mixing. There's no difference. Technically speaking, the MM-1 is no better suited for a non-DVS workflow than it is for a DVS workflow because it's got nothing to do with the control of the decks.


Hmm... Then I'm guessing it is something to do with the remix decks. Unfortunately if that's the case, you've been beaten to the punch now that the remix decks are midi-mappable with any controller. Still would probably make some sales based on ignorance of that fact, though. However, all of those would go out the window if DJTT's new midifighter is announced before these are released, as it's safe to assume it'll be at the very least as well-tailored to the remix decks as the DC-1 and probably within $75 of the price.

The vast majority of DVS users use an audio mixer because it works best. Internal mixing is impossible with serato and clunky at best with traktor.

Your assumptions about the "new midi fighter" and its price point seems to be complete heresay


Back on point, I'm still looking seriously at the MM1 as a super portable setup coupled with an X1. Be awesome if it was available as a xmas gift...

[oilythread]

lol you realize you're criticizing a feature that you just made up.

That's not criticism. And I didn't make it up, I agreed with the previous two people who made it up. Several people made guesses. Don't get bitchy just because I pointed out the negative effects of those predictions being correct.

The vast majority of DVS users use an audio mixer because it works best. Internal mixing is impossible with serato and clunky at best with traktor.

Yeah sure, great. It's got absolutely nothing to do with DVS though, it's a completely separate part of the workflow. Also, Serato users obviously wouldn't be using the Z2 or the MM-1 in the first place.

Your assumptions about the "new midi fighter" and its price point seems to be complete heresay

You don't think it's safe to assume that since it's replacing the midi fighter classic, that it'll have at least a 4x4 grid? Nevermind the fact that DJTT has already built a special integration module for the remix decks that people would flip out about if this new midi fighter didn't incorporate....

(fair enough about the price point though, you're right that it was a somewhat unqualified guess)

But like I said, we're already all speculating here... what the hell?




But why speculate? Nemonic, you said we were incorrect on the velocity-sensitivity guess. Want to tell us we're incorrect on the remix decks? Surely we're wrong and it's something much more interesting than special support for the already-midi-mappable remix decks.