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    Considering the above, yes it a simple way to check if it comes from your keyboard or if the problem is elsewhere.
    You don't delete anything. You save all your settings:
    file/controller manager/ and at the very bottom you can import/export. Export all your settings (check where it is saved).
    Now once it is saved, in the controller manager, just under "device set up", you have "device", select one, push the edit button (just to the right of the "add" button") it open a menu and click delete (repeat for each one of your controller).
    Then, recreate a new controller keyboard: click on "add", select generic keyboard, check it is set on device target "focus", check that all "modifier state"(s) are set to 0. The in-port should be keyboard (use your main keyboard not the usb one at the time being).

    Add in 4 functions that would be: transport/Play -pause/ learn button A/ no modifiers conditions/ type of controller Button/ interaction mode Toggle/ Assignment deck A. Note that would be good to use 'common' buttons on your keyboard, no shortcuts or anyhting fancy, try with the num-pads.

    Repeat the above for buttons B,C and D (and assignate to decks B,C and D)
    Click one again on learn so it's no yellow anymore, recheck you didn't use by mistake the same button (oh yes it happens!), check the assignment of each deck. Now close the controller manager.
    Try to have 4 decks playing at once if triggered by mouse, if it's ok, stop them and now trigger the play/pause with each deck, then two, then three, then all at once (change combinations). What happens, is it the same decks that are in fault, what about if you change the 'deck focus' directly on Traktor, does that change the behaviour?

    I know it sounds simple but at least from a 'naked' set up, if that doesn't work, we can now pass easily to another step, but we'll know and won't assume your mappings and buttons aren't in conflict with 'something'.

    Now you import back your settings after deleting our try at a new generic keyboard.

    All the above won't take much time so it's worth trying don't you think?
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    Right, this is fucking weird. Something was definitely up. Ok, I did everything you mentioned. (Thanks for writing all that by the way, you're a legend of the game for that!). So, yeah, did what you said, had just 4 play buttons mapped... bingo, worked first time!! 4 decks played on 4 separate buttons, fucking sweet I thought. So imported my old settings, and checked, double checked and triple checked my mappings, nothing looked wrong but still, it didnt wanna know about 4 buttons. So I decided to just delete everything except for the list up and down and the tree up and down mappings which came out of the box, so nothing to do with me mapping anything. Added 4 play/pause buttons and Traktor didnt want to to know about 4 buttons. Right, I thought it must be something to do with the list mappings thats fucking around with the play buttons so deleted the entire lot and started a fresh list from the device set up edit drop down menu.
    Now, 4 buttons wont work no matter what I try. All I have mapped are the 4 play/pause buttons. I have done about 5 fresh lists, closed and relaunched Traktor a few times. Don't know what else to try. This was the last list I made, if it's wrong its cos I've got myself confused as I've done it so many times on the trot, but Im confident I would have done it right at least once, if not every time. But what have I done for it not to work? It worked once and doesnt want to know any more.


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    haaaaaaa my head hurts reading you
    Ok that's amost a close victory if that worked at least once

    It's late for me now, I'll eventually have a look later or somebody else would come with a bright solution for you I'm sure.

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    Are you set for Scratch Control or internal playback?
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    Quote Originally Posted by DvlsAdvct View Post
    Are you set for Scratch Control or internal playback?
    Just tried both modes, same deal!

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    Not to thread jack, but i'm really having a hard time figuring out how to map my cues. Something that is super simple in VDJ is ridiculously hard in Traktor. In VDJ I can set a button (lets say pad 1) to either trigger a cue (cue 1) if there's one saved for that button, or to map a hot cue to that button (pad 1) on the first press if there isnt a cue saved, and then to jump back and play from that cue point on subsequent presses.

    Simple right? How do I map that in traktor?

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    @GrOwTesk, well it is the same, not much more difficult from what you used to do.
    In your mapping add functions for your hotcues:
    file/controller manager/ add in/ cue-loops/ select-store hotcue/ button hold/ set to value Hotcue X
    So if a cue is stored you'll get to that hotcue, if it's not, it would be stored. No big deal.
    Once again, there's some bit of explanation on what functions do in the manual. Not clear all the time I admit, coudl do with more details but still a good starting point.

    @Dodge: there's something wrong in your mappings or settings. I don't know why, but you saw from a fresh start that it can work (and it works for everybody). Why don't u start once again, with your mind cleared (More than often I'm making too many mappings with modifiers and stuff that I confused myself sometimes). Each time you're implementing something you test it, it's simple as that. You do, you test, you eventually correct what needs to be corrected. It will be best and in the end you'll have a clearer view and a cleaned mapping. Can't tell about the audio settings of course. But as i said before the best would be to tackle each steps at a time if you want to spot where the potential errors are. Hope you'll find a solution (I'm sure you will).

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    @Dodge: there's something wrong in your mappings or settings. I don't know why, but you saw from a fresh start that it can work (and it works for everybody). Why don't u start once again, with your mind cleared (More than often I'm making too many mappings with modifiers and stuff that I confused myself sometimes). Each time you're implementing something you test it, it's simple as that. You do, you test, you eventually correct what needs to be corrected. It will be best and in the end you'll have a clearer view and a cleaned mapping. Can't tell about the audio settings of course. But as i said before the best would be to tackle each steps at a time if you want to spot where the potential errors are. Hope you'll find a solution (I'm sure you will).[/QUOTE]


    Yul, I'm telling you man I have done a fresh start about ten times now. With a clear head. I know I said I might have got confused due to doing it so many times when posting that screen shot, but that was just to cover my arse in case someone spotted a simple mistake resulting in me looking like a dunce. Seriously man, I know I'm still relatively new to Traktor but I've been using music software for a good 8 years now and so I am used to meticulously setting up routing options again and again for big sessions while bands are waiting and shit. Ok, I didn't know what modifiers were but, I quite simply have never come across them until starting to use Traktor.
    Take a look at the screen shot, does everything look correct? There are literally only 4 play buttons, each one assigned to a different deck, each one on toggle, each one a button type controller, no modifiers on any of them, device target on focus, device generic keyboard. Yes, it worked the first time which is great, we were getting somewhere, but I assure you I have set it up exactly the same as the first time every time since.
    I have just done a fresh list yet again, checked each play/pause button worked before setting up a new one, but by the time I get to the 3rd deck it won't play 3 simultaneously. I have been to my system preferences to see if there's any crazy settings on the keyboard, but it is all on its default settings. I have been through every window in the Traktor preferences to see if there's anything stupid I've missed. I have tried everything. If you can think of anything else, any other angle, anything at all I'm ears.
    I really do appreciate your help on this my man. I'm going to the gym now, if I cant sort it when I try yet again when I get back, I am going to call NI because I cant see anything else to try.
    I know what you're thinking, it's probably something really simple. I coudn't agree more, 9 times out of 10 it is something simple. Hopefully I can sort it and laugh about all this when I find the root of the problem.

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    One quick thing to try, cause I'm curious, if you press each button down and hold it, one at a time (press A, hold, press B, hold, press C... etc). Does it stop triggering?

    It could be something with the keyboard, after all, in the settings. Does this happen with any other mappings? Like, sync, or load?
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    Yeah I understand how frustrating it can be sometimes, specially when it comes ot simple functions.
    I have confidence as you did it once and it worked, it stopped working when you got your previous settings backs so there's probably something there.
    No there's nothing wrong there in the picture you showed. Considering how many post we had in this thread and that we don't have the final clue, no I don't assume it's that simple

    my guesses but that won't help you:
    - there's a deck focus assignment thingie that messes somewhere
    - a previous parameter messes whatever you do (that's why Im' always typing the value I want something to be set up even if I'm duplicating a function)
    - you have a mogwaï you gave food to after midnight within your keyboard and the critter is eating internal circuits.

    Good luck as I don't see how I can be of further help. But yes I want to know what it was if you find the solution.
    If someone would be kind enough to send you a mapping for a mac keyboard you can still test it also I suppose.

    Ok, I'll go now to my Krav Maga training session too.

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