Reloop Digital Jockey 2 So far so bad. Build quality +Support Problems,come to a head

[Flash101uk]

Excellent news mate
I assume youre using the onboard soundcard? Are you getting on ok with that too?

Did your friends take the controller seriously or think it was a toy?
Personally, I think its got a pretty professional finish, but its all in the eye of the beholder. I'd be interested to hear other peoples opinions on it.

Now along side your jockey, you'll soon find you need cue point shortcuts. My recommendation is a midi fighter. If thats too expensive, or you dont live in america, go with an akai LPD 8

[grantholmes]

I have been reading this thread as I am intrested in purchasing a RDDJ before the S4 comes out. I have been a house music DJ for nearly 20 years and graduated from Technics to CDJ's unitll my daughter came along and my deck room dissapeared two years ago. I personally know that Renaissance legend Ian Ossia loves the RDDJ2 and a few other well know jocks where going to get one or already have (until the S4 was announced)

Quick question

I mix on Pioneer CDJ's like I would mix using 1210's. E.G. I use the top part of the platter to find and release my cue point and then pitch bend by moving the side of platter either forwards and backwards (also I have been known to do the odd bit of scratching now and again)

Can I basically do the same using the reloop?



Also as somebody who's day job is in the software industry I would just like to put my two pennies worth regarding some of the issues listed on this thread.

All new products will have at least a couple of firmware updates to get them running correctly (remember when the PS3 came out). If you can always give it 6-9 months after release.

General rule of thumb is to get a dedicated sound card rather than use the onboard one. Also the reloop sound card is only 16bit - 48KHz so will defo not sound nearly as good as a NI Audio DJ card (this is also dependant on the sound system it is plugged into). However that does not excuse poor quality/faulty equipment (this also includes buttons- faders)

It is specifically designed for Traktor (even though you can use it for other software if you so wish) so don't be surprised that it may be more difficult to get the thing running with other DJ software or find out infomation on how to

Things like mappings/forums/support should generally get better as more people use the product and any bugs/glitches get ironed out. Companies like Microsoft are exactly the same there may have been loads of people posting issues the company already knows about or already has a fix for (or in development). The problem is sometimes due to legal and commerical aspects communicating it publically can cause problems. However I would say that deleting posts and not responding is not the way to address this issues


Rember you get what you pay for... The reloop is approx £300 all in, I don't expect it to be better than two CDJ's and a mixer because that setup would cost you £2000 + or Half decent mixer and two X1's over £1000 +.
However if it comes close then thats great for the price



For me personally if it means I just have to plop it down on my study desk hook it up to my computer, mix like I would basically mix on CDJ's and then just pack it away afterwards. It could be the perfect piece of kit until S4

[kooper1980]

Hey mate

In my limited usage to date (i intend on getting a bit more use out of it this weekend) i would say that you can most definitely use this as you would CDJ's or 1210's. In fact a close friend of mine used it last weekend exactly like you describe and he took to it instantly!!!

I'm not sure how well you can use tit for scratching but i only say that because i haven't tried and have no experience either so you would have to check that out for yourself.

I bought this for exactly the same reason and purpose as you have explained. Pull this out and put it on your PC desk and within seconds you'll be rocking!!!

Jon

[grantholmes]

Glad to hear that it works as I thought it did, I am very tempted to buy but I may just hold of and get the S4 in a couple of months......

But I have a itch that needs scratching and some wonga burning a hole in my pocket

I would have thought Ean or the website would have done a review of it by now. The MusicaRadar review was pretty good 4 stars out of 5 I think

[kooper1980]

Hey

Just a quick update.

Still loving the controller. Its everything i could want and more!!!

Been looking into setting some hot cues etc and i was wondering if you knew whether i could also hook my Launchpad up to traktor to run alongside the RDJ2 to launch cues etc??

Sorry if this is a lame question.

Thanks

Jon

[MCJ]

I have the exact same experiences as the topic starter, except that I've owned a Digital Jockey 2 Controller Edition. You know what? That thing is even worse!

It's unusable on Macs, it can't even light op two or more LED's at the same time. It always just lights up just one of the LED's randomly. This is with every program, with every single Mac. And the stupid thing is that in Windows (Boot Camped for example) there's not a problem at all.

Experiencing exactly the same (also on Mac) and that's unforgivable in a live situation because even when your ears give you the right feedback, you definitely will press a button that you shouldn't based on the wrong led feedback once in a while (actually: pretty often). I've wasted countless programming hours on this device and assistance inquiries on the reloop fora. The led feedback problem has been there with all mappings and with all firmware I've tried.

4-deck support has never been fully functional either. I've tried the now required Firmware 2.7 and 3.4 mapping (for the controller edition, the interface edition has a different Firmware) and it just isn't working properly at all.

I'll return it to the shop tomorrow and will buy a Vestax here I guess. I'm not amused. I was happy with what seemed a good deal, but that 'deal' wasted a good deal of my valuable time. What I truly can't understand is that, when you gave them this information already, they still act surprised and don't just say it's a known issue.

Cheers,
MCJ.

[RD444]

3 weeks later my controller is back from Reloop repair

buttons are not working

sometimes they work and sometimes they don't??

decks.co.uk said no refund because I've had it too long
but all this time its been

• -firmware updates
• -noisy headphone output
• -get a new soundcard
• -send it off (£15) to be repaired
• -still not working!!

I've rang the credit card company to get my money back

did Reloop even fix it at all?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ifU8lqdUGgo

[RD444]

a quick update

I got £220 refund from my original £299

I'm probably looking at getting a VCi100 Mk2

I really wanted to love the RDJ2 - I suppose it depends on whether you get one they manufactured properly or not. I guess I was just unlucky or something.

[zgomot]

I owned a Reloop Digital Jockey 2 Interface Edition for almost a year, and although at first I had to deal with about the same quality (or lack thereof) support my issues were anything but show stoppers. I couldn't get it to control 4 decks "out of the box" as it was advertised. A fair bit of remapping was necessary to get it working with 4 decks. As Traktor - Ready 4 deck controller as it was touted to be, the whole deal was a bit disappointing. But since I don't actually need 4 decks, I quickly grew to ignore this.

The headphone buzz was present with my unit as well, but it was really low and once you had something playing in your headphones you could barely even tell it was still there. So it's something I very easily ignored.

Other than that my experience was quite positive. I enjoyed using the controller a fair bit and I used it on a few gigs as well as playing in my bedroom.

Generally speaking I thought the build quality was very good, buttons all worked flawlessly for me and the looping and fx features it sported was what I really loved most about it.


I sold it about 2 weeks ago only because I hardly ever used it. I'm no superstar dj and I get gigs 2-3 times a year, so it was basically a box worth 370 euro that was collecting dust on my desk. Using it in my daily production work proved to be less than optimal.

Therefore I decided to sell it and with the money I got off it I bought a Novation Nocturn and a Saffire 6 USB (2in/4out soundcard). This way I can use these daily in my production work and still have a mini-setup to use on the rare occasions I do get to play out.

Money way better spent.

I might have simply been extremely lucky to own a working unit... Still this is my experience.

[RD444]

cheers for the input

I lost about £70 getting mine returned

I got Ableton Live 8 with the money. and a launch pad off ebay for £95 wohoo

I'm still probably getting another controller . Vestax VCi100 mk2 is looking favourite.