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    or we could also talk about what makes a dj a dj.

    in the modern sense, specifically talking about ableton and traktor guys that rely on quantized sync more as "clip launchers" or "song launchers" rather than dj's persay. Whereas DJ's refer more to people that do all the same effects gymnastics the former does, but also manually beatmatch their tracks and dont rely on key lock.

    Personally id rather be known as a "controllerist dj". Which to me represents an amalgamut of all of the above depending on the situation. Whereas just a "controllerist" would be more in the vein of guys like moldover, who use controllers to perform music.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Filterkat View Post
    Hmm, if what some people are saying here is true, then i have a lot of things to add to my resume. I can surf pretty damn well, never surfed before in a competition, but i can do it well, so that must mean im a pro surfer. I can play football pretty well too, do all the neat ball guggling tricks with my feet. Never played for a league team, just with some friends down at the park, but ive scored a lot of goals, must mean im a football player... Ive replaced the starter motor in my car and changed a head gasket once aswel, damn, i guess that means im a mechanic. I fixed the toilet and the sink pipes a few weeks ago, guess that means im a plumber too... I do all my own flyers for my club nights, and there pretty damn good, guess that means im a graphic artist too. Working on my own website... Web designer? With the same mentality, i can hit a tennis ball over the net and do some pretty good power serves. Ive only played tennis for a semester in competition back when i was in high school once against other schools, but i guess that means im a Tennis player too?

    What im trying to get people to understand is that there is a key difference between being able to do something... and BEING something... sure... you CAN DJ, But i dont think you should be able to call yourself one until thats what you do for a living. Sure you may consider YOURSELF a DJ... and all the more power to you... but OTHERS arent going to consider you a DJ until they actually see you up on stage or in the club booth or whatever.

    In saying that, it doesnt mean you have to be like richie hawtin or deadmau5 getting paid 50,000 bucks a gig to be called a DJ. Just as long as your making some sort of income on some sort of regular occurence. Its like in football... or soccer or whatever, you have different leagues of guys, some play in reigonal, some play premier... they all get paid different amounts and play for different leagues... but they are all still football players... your not going to go call your mate with who you go down to the park and shoot a few balls around with a football player are you... yes he plays football... but he aint a football player.
    /end thread.

    nailed er shut.

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    Quote Originally Posted by duerr View Post
    /end thread.

    nailed er shut.
    That made me lol... funny thing was, i was actually listening to the track "nail in the coffin" by eminem when i was writing that post... and im usually not the biggest hiphop/rap fan either... i only spin EDM... still, nice to listen to different things once in a while

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    Quote Originally Posted by Filterkat View Post
    funny thing was, i was actually listening to the track "nail in the coffin" by eminem when i was writing that post
    haha

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UbQd3jxth5k

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gianmarco View Post
    http://www.djtechtools.com/forum/showthread.php?t=23373 : )

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    filterkat swings and misses by a mile

    the simple prefix of "amateur," "semi-pro," and "professional" completely destroys your argument.

    if you design a graphic for your flyer, yes, you are in fact a graphic artist. are you a professional graphic artist? or just amateur? or semi-professional? have you designed your own webpage from scratch? yes, you are now a web designer.

    good? maybe not. earned the title? sure. recognized by the pubilc as pro, however? probably not, if you have enough time to argue about it on an internet forum.

    seriously...

    edit: and the title DJ is silly for a lot of people nowadays anyway. if you arent jockeying discs, then your title is a misnomer.
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    Quote Originally Posted by completej View Post

    edit: and the title DJ is silly for a lot of people nowadays anyway. if you arent jockeying discs, then your title is a misnomer.
    Dont forget those spinning platters in your Hard Disc!

    unless your running SSD,,,,THEN A RAM Jockey! splitting HAIRS ANYONE!

    Amatuer = Bedroom Dj

    Semi pro= Guy who plays out partys and other small events but doesnt get paid

    Pro Dj = Getting paid by someone for playing music for others!

    Im guilty of all those!

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    Quote Originally Posted by completej View Post
    filterkat swings and misses by a mile

    the simple prefix of "amateur," "semi-pro," and "professional" completely destroys your argument.

    if you design a graphic for your flyer, yes, you are in fact a graphic artist. are you a professional graphic artist? or just amateur? or semi-professional? have you designed your own webpage from scratch? yes, you are now a web designer.

    good? maybe not. earned the title? sure. recognized by the pubilc as pro, however? probably not, if you have enough time to argue about it on an internet forum.

    seriously...

    edit: and the title DJ is silly for a lot of people nowadays anyway. if you arent jockeying discs, then your title is a misnomer.
    Sure i understand your argument in principle, and i agree with what you are saying but thats not what the thread is about, its about "being considered" as a DJ. If you play in your bedroom and in front of your friends once in a while, sure your an amateur DJ, but apart from you and your friends, whos going to know... no one else considers you a DJ because theyve never seen you do it. I cook for myself every night, and i consider MYSELF quite the chef... no one else considers me a chef though because im not in a restaurant, working in a kitchen.

    You can be considered something, when someone who doesnt know you at all, can clearly point at you and obviously point out what your doing. You walk in to an office, point at the girl at the front desk, "that girl is a receptionist", walk into a clothing shop "that guy is a retail assistant", walk into a club, go to the bar "that girl is a bartender", turn your head, and look at the booth, oh what do you know, that guy in the booth "That guy is a DJ"...

    If no one knows, no one cares... If you sit there mixing in your room, your only going to be considered a DJ by your pillows, your chair, your action figures, your mum, and possibly your close friends. If you DJ at a party, everyone who is at that party considers you a DJ while your at that party, If you DJ in a club, ANYONE who walks in off the street can walk in, see you playing, and will obviously consider you a DJ... You might not neccesarily be a good DJ, hell, ive walked into clubs may a times and said "wtf is this DJ on? is he half deaf?" but everyone in that room can still recognise what you are doing and consider you a DJ, regardless of skill level.

    Being considered something has nothing to do with skill level whatsoever, its being able to recognise that the person is actually doing what your recognising them for. I dont need your snarky comments about being regarded as a pro or not, because i know, when i go out and play, everyone on that dancefloor considers me a DJ, wether they think im good or not, and thats what this argument is about.

    And yes i have time to argue about things like this on an internet forum, because i dont think its fair for an "amateur" or bedroom DJ to be considered in the same league as a working, professional DJ, sure his skillset might be just as good, Better maybe than the DJ playing in the club... but no one is going to consider him one until he gets off his ass and gets himself some sort of gig, and people can recognise and aknowlege what he is doing.

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