Next generation DVS.. LONG LIVE VINYL!

[lbc4ever]

What do you mean there is no sound card? Somewhere in the chain you have to convert the digital information from the computer into an audio signal, don't you? Am I missing something here? What is happening between the software and the tonearm?

The audio travels up the needle / cantilever into a DAC. It's then sent wirelessly to it's host device where all the processing happens. I'ts then passed through an ADC and sent back wirelessly as analogue audio.

Simples.

[lbc4ever]

Check this guy out!

It's a veeery clever idea but still leaves us scrabbling around with cables etc..
Plus I can see myself getting over excited and doing a spinback that launched my ipod into someones forehead.

Nice work tho..

http://www.newscientist.com/blogs/on...ef=online-news

[MrPopinjay]

I wonder how responsive this is. Anyone here have experience with midi over wifi and have a good idea of what kind of latency wireless adds to the equation?

Not sure I'd trust a wireless connection anyway...

The audio travels up the needle / cantilever into a DAC. It's then sent wirelessly to it's host device where all the processing happens. I'ts then passed through an ADC and sent back wirelessly as analogue audio.

Simples.

Which means the sound card is inside the needles.

[lbc4ever]

I agree, the wireless connection needs proper R&D to make it rock solid..
But there's no actual midi transmitted. Midi timecode is sent as audio. Same as if it were going down a phono cable. So the latency is limited by the Audio capabilities of the hardware..

[tombruton69]

this is a good idea. best bet would be trying to sell it to traktor or serato, one thing you need to check is how well ur patent will hold up in law. people have transfered audio wirelessly before and all your doing is transfering it two ways. So they could say hey this is not a new technology.

if your patent wont hold up i wouldnt even bother these guys will destroy u in court

next maybe look at ur protocol and check to see how it fairs with 500 mobile phones signals and wireless till functions going. Might be worth building ur own protocol for sending the data.

your working with the speed of light so the transfer can be well bellow 1ms if done right. All your needles are doing is transfering the data back and fourth you would still need a soundcard to process this information properly and built in cards just wont cut it.

doing it this way would also be more atractive to serato or NI. As they can sell the soundcard that comunicates with the special carts. Also people would have to buy replacment needles off them. This would mean they would sell a soundcard with 2 carts and 2 control records.

this would also make change overs so simple as all they would need to do is set there laptop up then wen it came to change over just stick there needle on.

I have allways been very anti wireless wen it comes to djing, however if built in a way that the wireless could only communicate with the sound card and that you put in a reg code for the needles somewhere in the device setting so only these could communicate with it.

This would mean no1 else could hijack ur signals and fuck up ur set

[tombruton69]

just had a thought.

there is an ipad app that sends a timecode to the software to control dvs, this is another thing that might weaken ur patent

[sarasin]

To be fair my dad also has awesome needles. He was a Hi-Fi nut back in the late 70s and early 80s and he has a Linn Sondek LP12 with some ridiculous cartridge. He scoffs at my ortofons lol.

LOL...yeah them audiphiles.....

[sarasin]

Check this guy out!

It's a veeery clever idea but still leaves us scrabbling around with cables etc..
Plus I can see myself getting over excited and doing a spinback that launched my ipod into someones forehead.

Nice work tho..

http://www.newscientist.com/blogs/on...ef=online-news

Ahh yeah.....got this on my phone...in one of the apps....its OK.....latency problem tho....

And like you said...will need velcro or some shit.

[MrPopinjay]

But there's no actual midi transmitted. Midi timecode is sent as audio. Same as if it were going down a phono cable. So the latency is limited by the Audio capabilities of the hardware..

I was just refering to midi as I was curious as to the effect a wireless connection has on latency. Is it a large difference?

And it's not like a cable at all. You're swapping the act of travelling down a cable for converting analogue signal to digital, transmitting over the air, being received and converting back into digital. All those processes are going to add latency.

[sarasin]

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