100 bpm dubstep - Das supa thread!

[basspenetrator]

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[MyUsername]

I've seen youtube comments referring to dnb tunes as 'fast dubstep'.
I think its just yoots who only started listening to music in the last 2-3 years, so to them everything is dubstep, or a variant thereof.

Drum & bass: 170 bpm-ish usually above that I think. Sounds like drum & bass PERIOD

Drumstep: DnB drum pattern, DnB bpm-ish, but sounds like dubstep, a whole lot of dubstep samples, there is a clear drop, you got wobbles, etc.

Dubstep: - 140 bpm "standard" dubstpep
-70 bpm half as much obviously but mixes very well with 140 bpm
-100 bpm a strange bpm for dubstep but stil it's dubstep with a more rare feel to it

Just my perception of things

Edit: Also skanked the fuck out to 100 bpm when I saw KOAN sound live

[Firex]

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Yeah removed it,
btw, i'm moderator over at that forum ^^

[FreakmundZoid]

in the last couple of weeks i got into the 100bpm thing.. i really like it, but in my experience the crowd seems to be confused. apparently they are not really digging the tempo.. played some tunes at two parties in the last two weeks and the floor got noticeably empty... after switching to 140bpm dubstep or drumstep they went crazy again..

Haha, I made the same experience, but I found the trick: You have to play the tunes at 110 BPM, then they'll totally go for it (maybe because it not that far form 120 BPM, idk) ^^

[FreakmundZoid]

It's funny to see all these "old" arguments about what to call it. I liked "Hip Wob" a lot but (on some other forum) I read the term "Substep" which I liked a lot, too. My point: This thread is now nearly 2 yrs old and it's still "100 bpm Dubstep"

Also: I have the feeling that Moombahcore, Drumstep, Glitch Hop and 100 bpm dubstep are sometimes used as interchangeable, which imho they should not be. Plus, I think that enough time has passed to recognize 100BPM as a full-fledged sub-genre of Dubstep (like it is with Drumstep, Brostep etc.).

That is all.

[Will M.D]

Glitch Hop FTW...

Gotta love kiddies calling everything DnB or Dubstep....

I play breakbeat which incompasses a lot of genres, Glitch Hop, Dubstep, Breaks, DnB, Hip Hop etc.
Its amazing at how many people think its all the same

As long as its a Phat tuna that all that matters, but it is annoying that People don't understand what the Genre's are.
You don't have to understand all of the sub genre's but at least have an understanding of each style of music that there is.

Anything that sounds Dubstep at 100bpm i'd highly suggest was Trip hop or Glitch hop. Dubstep in my mind exsists purely of 140bpm anything else is a different genre.

A Conversation i've had many times with many noobs of music...

Dude "What Music do you DJ?"
DJ "Breakbeat"
Dude "Ah yeah, I hate breakbeat its shit"
DJ "Really"
Dude "yeah"
DJ "Do you like the Prodigy?"
Dude "Yeah they're well good"
DJ "Yeah, well its Breaks"
Dude "Really? I didn't know that, I thought it was slow Dnb!"
DJ "No its Breakbeat"
Dude "WTF is breakbeat?"
DJ "The basis for a LOT of music"

Dude "Whats the genre of the banger your playing?"
DJ "Breakbeat"
Dude "But I hate breakbeat & this sounds amazing"

When will people learn that Everything is not Dubstep!

Peace

[FreakmundZoid]

Gotta love kiddies calling everything DnB or Dubstep....

who are you calling "kid", kid? ;D

As long as its a Phat tuna that all that matters, but it is annoying that People don't understand what the Genre's are.
You don't have to understand all of the sub genre's but at least have an understanding of each style of music that there is.

Word.

Anything that sounds Dubstep at 100bpm i'd highly suggest was Trip hop or Glitch hop. Dubstep in my mind exsists purely of 140bpm anything else is a different genre.

So go by bpm. that's fine. but some djs have other criteria ("bass-line-feel" for instance).

When will people learn that Everything is not Dubstep!

I think about the same day, ppl will learn what the terms "style" and "genre" rly mean. So you see "Breakbeat" as a "style", a "super-genre" if you will, as opposed to, let's say, "4-to-the-foor"? fine, go by the beat then. But I for one would never file a tune by The Prodigy in even the same tree as a tune by (enter most popular dubstep artist). My point is: What use has a term like "genre" for a DJ, if it leads to a black/white-scheme for filing music?
It's not like "there's techno, breakbeat and IDM", this is not the 90s anymore. I think, it's become more complex.

The problem with Dubstep is, that it is relatively new. It has now become a "genre" in it's own right. You might call it a sub-gerne to Breakbeat, but be honest, if you say "Breakbeat", you are more likely to mean The Prodigy than Skrillex or Rusko, right? It's like, if I said "Techno" and wanted you to distinguish between Kalkbrenner and Carl Cox. The one is Minimal, the other isn't. Or if I said "House" and named Cassius and MightyDubKatz. Or even "Breakbeat" and said The Prodigy and Anthony Rother (both ca. 1999). I could go on and on, but you see my point: Dubstep is not DnB, is not Techno, House, Rock, NuSkoolBreaks, R'nB, HipHop, Glitch, yada yada yada. Like a proper genre, it draws elements of style from all other preexisting genres (that's why there is Drumstep (dubstep sub-genre) etc.). You just call it GlitchHop and TripHop, because of where you started from, I presume.

Listen to these two tunes:
Popeska - Back To The Streets ("Complextro" imho)
Culprate - Finger VIP ("100bpm Dubstep" imho)
and then tell me either one is GlitchHop or TripHop. Would you even file them both in the same "style"? I'll stick by my guns here and say: 100bpm dubstep is a sub-gerne of dubstep (which of course is itself a sub-genre to Breakbeat, but so are many genres). Just going by main-rhythm or artist is too shallow (no offence to you personally ;D).

That is all.

[DJelixeR]

KOAN and culprate are glitch hop artists not dubstep artists. look into hard glitch or glitch hop i.e. statixx, adrenaline, tipper, opiou etc

[Snacks]

I'm liking this new 100bpm track from Reso http://soundcloud.com/reso/check-1-2