Clearing up the deadmau5 DJ thing

[tokenasianguy]

ouch.

...Just in the sense that they're all trying to put a price on a skill that's more or less intangible and not quantifiable without a reasonable doubt.

Full time Actors are perfect examples. Much like full time DJ's, they might initially say they do it for their "passion" but making a lot of money for minimal work is a HUGE (albeit unspoken) factor. After all, nobody wants to be a starving artist and none of us are aiming to be a mediocre success.

[tokenasianguy]

I would suggest anyone who's berating Deadmau5 check out the live DVD he released awhile back. It's one of my favourite live EDM DVD's since I picked up The Prodigy - Electronic Punks VHS tape.

I think the point he's making is that he knows how to put on a damn fine live show. I couldn't give a shit if he's just pressing the space bar (which he's not). I pays my money and I wanna be blown away by his set and the inevitably amazing visuals. I've seen The Prodigy, Chemical Brothers, Underworld and Orbital countless times and they're no different... it's no more 'live' than Deadmau5. Orbital used to trigger loops via a bunch of Alesis MMT8's when they played live(!)... Deadmau5 is going WAY beyond that and Orbital are/were generally considered to one of the top live EDM shows.

If you've gone to a Deadmau5 'live' show and expect to see a dj who 'reads the crowd', you've clearly gone to the wrong show. Watching Deadmau5 live is about something different... if you don't like how he performs 'live' then you're not the intended market he's aiming at. And the market/punters he's aiming at will keep on dancing to his live shows whilst all the keyboard warriors on DJTT keep on bitching.

Bigups to Deadmau5... if only for being honest.

I agree.

Forums give people a voice, and you start to notice there there's a lot of self-righteous elitism out there.

[tokenasianguy]

If you go to any music show in order to see the performance, I feel sorry for you.

Music: it's not experienced through the eyes unless it's so loud that it's reducing you to a gelatinous pulp.

Ever heard of "stage presence" or ever seen a band live?

Why else would so many people go to concerts to see their favorite band "perform" even though the music and vocals almost never sound as polished as the studio recorded albums?

[MWagner]

When Deadmau5 talks about DJs as "button pushers" he's clearly neglecting the next step in the evolution of superstar DJs:
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Get someone else to push the buttons for you...

[ellgieff]

Ever heard of "stage presence" or ever seen a band live?

Why else would so many people go to concerts to see their favorite band "perform" even though the music and vocals almost never sound as polished as the studio recorded albums?

Yes, I've heard of stage presence. It's something that theatre actors need, and something I expect when I go to watch (hint: theatre plays are something I'd go to _see_) a play.

I've seen bands, sure. But when I went to the band's show, I went to hear them. I couldn't give the slightest damn what the musicians look like, and am not at all interested in a pyrotechnic display - if I wanted a "pyrotechnic" display, I'd take something at the psychedelic end of the stimulant rainbow.

I can't tell you why the tin-eared drones go to see their favourite band. I don't know anything about why tin-eared drones even bother to keep breathing.

I can tell you that I don't have tin-ears, and that I go to a live band show precisely because it sounds different to the recorded version.

[streetStreet]

He says what he's doing in his tumblr post at his live shows and isnt scared to say its nothing too special, the fans change the game because they want to heard Deadmau5.

His music productions are solid, there is no denying that fact unless you're delusion or been living under a 1200 somewhere for too long.

[rotebass]

Yes, I've heard of stage presence. It's something that theatre actors need, and something I expect when I go to watch (hint: theatre plays are something I'd go to _see_) a play.

I've seen bands, sure. But when I went to the band's show, I went to hear them. I couldn't give the slightest damn what the musicians look like, and am not at all interested in a pyrotechnic display - if I wanted a "pyrotechnic" display, I'd take something at the psychedelic end of the stimulant rainbow.

I can't tell you why the tin-eared drones go to see their favourite band. I don't know anything about why tin-eared drones even bother to keep breathing.

I can tell you that I don't have tin-ears, and that I go to a live band show precisely because it sounds different to the recorded version.

Quite possibly the most douchy, elitist post I have ever seen on DJTT

[3heads]

Ever heard of "stage presence" or ever seen a band live?

Why else would so many people go to concerts to see their favorite band "perform" even though the music and vocals almost never sound as polished as the studio recorded albums?

Well, but there's a fundamental difference between rock music and house/techno. Rock music is about concerts, people go there to see their favourite bands, sing while their favourite songs are being played and maybe jump around a bit (and all that in a rather limited timeframe of maybe 2-3h). House and techno on the other hand are different, there it's all about the party, about a steady groove going on to dance to for hours on end, it's not really all that important who's spinning at a given moment (and quite a few good clubs have dj booths in a corner of the room rather than in the centre to draw attention). To me all this electro house stuff is electronically produced music which is aimed at a rock music crowd, the events are clearly more like rock concerts than parties (well, at least judging by the stuff people always talk about on here or post youtube videos of) and the music itself is also (in certain respects) closer to rock than to techno.

[ellgieff]

Quite possibly the most douchy, elitist post I have ever seen on DJTT

Probly. Until you rolled eyes, then you got the crown. Congrats!

[3heads]

Let's all be honest with ourselves, it doesn't take a lot of talent. Sure it takes SOME talent, but it's not brain surgery.

Well, I agree, DJing is for the most part a rather stereotypical thing. Once you've gotten how it works in your genre of choice, it's relatively easy. But one thing is way more important than talent: it's taste - and well, not too many people have that.

(I thought , while we're on the topic of douchy elitist posts I might contribute one as well )