USB3 External HD

[ImNoDJ]

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Disk_read-and-write_head

Why are you posting these extremely basic links about hard disks? None of them back up anything youre saying.

I tell you that my mobile machines have a hard drive failure of about 1 in 100. I also tell you that a two day old hard drive has the same chance of failing as a three year old hard drive out of 100 machines.

Evidence, not superstition. I work with too many techs who base decisions on superstition and not on evidence. Its very frustrating in a technical field.

[ImNoDJ]

They don't make contact if left stationary if not left stationary they make contact causing wear

Hard drives have no contacting parts. If the head touches the platter its going to cause damage in every single case.

Portable hard drives have all kinds of shock protection built into the laptop and case itself, plus sensors that park the heads in case of shock or fall.

[ZxZDeViLZxZ]

Being stationary has nothing to do with it. Portable hard drives have all kinds of shock protection built into the laptop and case itself, plus sensors that park the heads in case of shock or fall.

Laptops have protection built in... Acceptable read and write time is entirely dependent on what your used to... Which is why this is pointless ...

So sure they don't slow down they just eventually fail and the amount of shock a drive receives has no impact on performance(not like bad sectors affect performance)... Of all the shit that's gone back and forth in this thread it comes down to do backups regularly and don't expect a portable drive to last as long as a non portably.....

[mostapha]

I was always under the impession that spinning drives up and down excessively was what lead to premature failure (that and random chance).

At least, that's what kept coming up in my research in building a NAS.

I still think SSDs are a very noticeable improvement and preferable for DJs in basically every way.

[ZxZDeViLZxZ]

Raid 0 with 480gb SSD = win

[deevey]

Raid 0 with 480gb SSD = win

= Total Data loss if one of the drives goes down.

Raid 0 is effectively doubling your chances of data loss, so unless your doing mirrored backup every day...you are potentially fucked!

Drives Fail - fact of life, I've had 2 drives start to fail in the past 5 years (both I caught in time) and one complete FUBAR which thankfully I was only using as an intermediary transfer drive.

[Glitchwerks]

I still think SSDs are a very noticeable improvement and preferable for DJs in basically every way.

They are a massive improvement, and they are especially popular for gaming as well (but that's another topic.)

I'm still wary of the fact that they have a finite lifespan, even though I think that's something like over 100 TB worth of data written to the drive before they fail (IIRC.)

I've had HDDs that have lasted for 10+ years.

The only drives that have ever failed me were made by Maxtor. Since Seagate bought Maxtor, I've avoided Seagate since. There was also one in an old Apple iBook that failed in less than a year, but I forgot the manufacturer (Samsung maybe...? It's been a while.)

Western Digital...never had a failure.

[Patch]

I still don;t know what to buy.

Spinning drive or SSD? Powered or not powered?

Does it really matter? As long as I don't buy something that is no good with Traktor - does it matter what the hell I do buy?

[ZxZDeViLZxZ]

Doesn't matter really whAt you buy just back it up.... I have used both Seagate and WD extensively for external drives
Both were around the $90 mark

[mostapha]

I'm still wary of the fact that they have a finite lifespan, even though I think that's something like over 100 TB worth of data written to the drive before they fail (IIRC.)

It's actually a lot higher than that....like....closer to a PB than 100TB.

http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2014/...f-a-long-time/

That article makes me smile that I chose 840Pros for several of mine....they're some of the ones still going after 1PB (11 months straight of 24/7 writes).

A DJ will NOT use drives that fast.

I'm completely confident that you'll want something new before you need something new.

I still don;t know what to buy.

Spinning drive or SSD? Powered or not powered?

Does it really matter? As long as I don't buy something that is no good with Traktor - does it matter what the hell I do buy?

Internal: SSD
External to drag around with you: bus-powered USB3 or TB SSD
External for backups that doesn't move often: wall-powered HDD