Serato vs. Traktor Pro.

[Karlos Santos]

Thats the thing though. You will still see SSL users on a lot of clubs in the US cus those guys have ben DJing for some time.

Its gonna take time for the Traktor users to come through the ranks. It is happening, slowly.

Just like in UK you would never see a Trakor DJ 5 or 6 years ago. You only saw SSL.
That changed really quickly.

The US is following Europe like that at the moment and, like i said its not necessarily about which one is better cus that is a stupid argument. Its more down to NIs aggressive marketing in the US.

Fact is, people are stupid and they buy what they are told. UK, US it doesnt matter. NI have had a whole line of DJs flogging their stuff. If i was a 15 yr old kid i think id be pretty impressed at the Traktor videos that we have all seen over the passed few years.

As i say, its not a SSL v TSP thing at all cus thats just stupid.

[tekki]

Yeah, almost the same with the discussion of PC vs Mac.

[tyfurious]

All of this. As an aside, I am still surprised when I hear that TSP is outselling SSL in all markets, when I am one of about 3 people I know that use Traktor in any form, and I know of countless people in my area using SSL/Itch. and while i have seen serato/itch in countless clubs/bars, i dont think i have ever seen traktor. (not saying one is better-remember, i chose traktor over serato-just reporting what i see).

I guess it's because a lot of new DJs are flocking towards Traktor, which would lead me to say that Traktor will eventually win this out. Then again, I won't believe it's outselling until I see a legit link (they might be counting all the free LE demos that get sent out and ignore itch for all I know).

[JesC]

@Karlos I believe that Traktor (NI) is outselling Rane in hardware sales, no doubt. Most DJs that I know that are SSL users dont even own the box cuz all the clubs they play at already have it installed.

I love trakor and NI, heck I own everything from NI DJ line except for a Audio4. But ive been waiting for features to come to (Traktor) and its serious taking too long to come. IE Maschine intergration, colorwave forms, point and click midi mapping. A GUI that can move waveforms vertical or horizontal.

I wish Traktor or NI would do something similar to what serato has on their site and get something going with beatport to be like whitelabel.net. Well they do but its for the super famous djs (which im not), I need to dig up that link again.

Call it a rant or me bitching but seriously now that I own a SL-1 and the only midi controller I rely on is a pair of Dicers with some timecodes my setup time is under 1 min vs 10-15 mins. And I just got tried the bridge lastnite for the 1st time...all im saying is wow.

Check this link out ----> http://sera.to/~Dj_JesC (this is not a plug) but I wish NI had something like this cuz it gives promoters/clubs owners a chance to see what you play and what gear u have.

[Karlos Santos]

Serato have always done a great job lookig after their DJs. The forum is really good (aside from the few total bastards that ruin it).
The NI forum is woefuly lacking in some areas. I wish i could change a lot.
Thing is the NI forum caters for all that NI do which is a vast product line in comparison to Seratos.

As for long awaited features. Im not too sure about that. Things take time. Maschine is what, less that 2 years old..?
Traktor Pro is just over 2 years old and both have been developed a lot but maschine is still a work in progress. The 1.6 version is the first big step up.
I dont think a TSP/Maschine bridge could have been developed in this timeframe.
I think it will be in the next big round of development maybe.

I see the development of SSL having dragged its feet much more in the last 2 years.
Most of the Bridge was done by Ableton AFAIK. Still, it is great and it is something that NI should be working on.

Its funny cus i like the look of what the Bridge can do. My mate who is an SSL user in the blood is using Ableton a lot and hes using the Bridge but he loves the way Maschine works alongside Traktor and hes looking to buy an X1.
Anyone with any sense at all keeps an open mind and looks at all the possibilities.

[JesC]

Anyone with any sense at all keeps an open mind and looks at all the possibilities.

yup, I will not part with my maschine, its just amazing. Some goes for the X1 and my Audio8.

One thing I have notice that I have been getting booked more now that word got out that Im using SSL.

[photojojo]

Check this link out ----> http://sera.to/~Dj_JesC .

I played three out of your ten yesterday.

[JesC]

I played three out of your ten yesterday.

Playchart
1. Eurythmics - Sweet Dreams 2. New Order - Bizarre Love Triangle Sub 3. Michael Jackson - Billie Jean 4. Simple Minds - Dont You (Extended Mix) 5. Depeche Mode - Strangelove (Blind Mix) 6. Human League - Dont You Want Me 12" 7. New Order - Thieves Like Us 8. A Flock Of Seagulls - The More You Live, The More You Love 9. Stone Roses - I Wanna Be Adored 10. Blur - Girls And Boys

which three sir?

[photojojo]

which three sir?

Should have clarified, not songs, but bands. Can you spot The Smiths cover?

Meant To Be-Squirrel Nut Zippers
I feel speed-Love and rockets
Killing Time-The Creatures
Why-Donna Regina
Blue Sunday-The Fantastics !
Falling Together-Joalz
Halo-Depeche Mode
The Hanging Garden-The Cure
Dominos-The Big Pink
She Bangs the Drums-The Stone Roses
All At Once-Stockholm Monsters
Stargazer-Siouxsie & The Banshees
I Started Something I Couldn't Finish-Bow Wow Wow
Duppy Conqueror (Fort Knox Five Mix) Bob Marley & The Wailers
Gebt uns ruhig die Schuld (Den Rest könnt ihr behalten) Die Fantastischen Vier
Flea Market (Eat More Cake Remix) David E. Sugar
Murder (Original Version) Retriever
Ethereal Connection (Radio Edit) Babylonia
Spooky (Out of Order Mix) New Order
Please Ask for Help-Telekinesis
Taste What's Rhythm-Swamp Children
Kinky Afro-Happy Mondays
My Blues Away (1975 Demo) The Boomtown Rats
78 R.P.M.-Stiff Little Fingers
Coma Girl-Joe Strummer And The Mescaleros
Ghostfire-Tiger Army
Send Her Back-Mike Ness
Manifesto No. 1-Shooter Jennings
Dick In Dixie-Hank Williams III
Conversation with the Devil-Ray Wylie Hubbard
From The Bottle To the Bottom-Kris Kristopherson

[JesC]

Should have clarified, not songs, but bands. Can you spot The Smiths cover?
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I Started Something I Couldn't Finish-Bow Wow Wow
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Please Ask for Help-Telekinesis...

Come on...its like asking Shiftee, wheres Waldo!

But I see another song that I need to get my hands on!