Are CDJs here to stay?

[Shishdisma]

Right, because the only Djs that matter are the DJs that played at those clubs, not the other 500,000 playing weddings and sweet 16s. This is typical snobby DJ thinking, that the only thing that matters is whatever your scene is and everything else isn't really DJing and therefore doesn't matter in the "DJ Industry".

Time will tell if CDJs stick around.

Uhh, last time I checked, the CDJ and DJM series are Pioneers best sellers, while the MEP and their rack mount mixers are just kinda surviving. The 500,000 wedding DJs don't use DJ hardware, they use Winamp and a USB sound card. DJ equipment is expensive, and a lot of mobile DJs don't have several grand to blow on playing Journey and Justin Bieber back and forth. They don't drive the industry because they don't care about the industry, they just want to make music come out as cheaply as possible and collect their next rent check.

[JesusJuice]

Uhh, last time I checked, the CDJ and DJM series are Pioneers best sellers, while the MEP and their rack mount mixers are just kinda surviving. The 500,000 wedding DJs don't use DJ hardware, they use Winamp and a USB sound card. DJ equipment is expensive, and a lot of mobile DJs don't have several grand to blow on playing Journey and Justin Bieber back and forth. They don't drive the industry because they don't care about the industry, they just want to make music come out as cheaply as possible and collect their next rent check.

i think you guys should really take this debate to another thread. it sounds like a great debate for the rest of us to chime into aswell but i believe you may be on the verge of hijacking this guys thread. the topic is whether cdjs will remain the industry/club/whatever standard not who drives the industry.

and back on topic, there is just too much variables when it comes to controllers

[haze324]

Right, because the only Djs that matter are the DJs that played at those clubs, not the other 500,000 playing weddings and sweet 16s. This is typical snobby DJ thinking, that the only thing that matters is whatever your scene is and everything else isn't really DJing and therefore doesn't matter in the "DJ Industry".

Time will tell if CDJs stick around.

You sound like someone who just got their feelings hurt and is now defensive. It's gonna be ok sunshine. Here's the truth --- this is an internet forum and it really doesn't matter what you or I say on here. So don't get so butt hurt over a stupid topic that no one knows the answer to.

[zestoi]

and back on topic, there is just too much variables when it comes to controllers

exactly - and also too much variation in software. so even if there *was* some kind of industry standard that was very different from cdj's the kind of people now who want to use their choice of software and controller(s) will still feel the same way.

i'd expect to see better interfacing options with cdj's (or whatever they will be called) and hopefully clubs allowing more space of racks of somekind for dj's to plug in their own custom equipment.

i'm sure the screens on cdj's will get bigger and better and allow more of the functionality that we see today in software - but isn't one of the main points of controllerism being individual in how we control+interact with our media? (ignoring for now the other obvious reason of price and accessibility for new dj's) so no "new standard" no matter how advanced will probably make a high % of people in this thread happy anyway.

if i had the cash i'd buy a pair of cdj2000's tomorrow but i'd still want to be able to add some controllers and software into the mix () even if that meant manually synching up a copy of traktor to the cdj's or something.

[dj matt blaze]

Uhh, last time I checked, the CDJ and DJM series are Pioneers best sellers, while the MEP and their rack mount mixers are just kinda surviving. The 500,000 wedding DJs don't use DJ hardware, they use Winamp and a USB sound card. DJ equipment is expensive, and a lot of mobile DJs don't have several grand to blow on playing Journey and Justin Bieber back and forth. They don't drive the industry because they don't care about the industry, they just want to make music come out as cheaply as possible and collect their next rent check.

Don't mean to hijack, just responding. You are a little misguided. Mobile DJs charge anywhere from $200 on the very cheap side....to over $5000 for a 4 hour gig. So yes, there are unprofessionals that do it cheaply, that don't care, not denying that at all, you get what you pay for. But there are professionals that charge big money that have big equipment, including lights, uplighting, video screens, dancers, and have a roster of DJs. Not all mobile DJs do everything on the cheap. The big mobile companies have annual revenues in the millions, so believe me, they can well afford spending thousands on gear and do care about the industry.

This whole convo started becasue the statement made that clubs drive the DJ industry didn't make sense to me. I think the thought process was that big Djs use CDJs, big clubs will have them installed as long as big DJs use them. Big DJs influence others to buy the equipment they use, therefore CDJs will stick around. I don't think they will stick around much longer in there current form. When a company makes a product they want to do it as cheaply as possible. Pioneer will make a controller that is essentially a CDJ without the CD player and still charge a little less than a CDJ. It may take a few years, its not gong to happen overnight but the CDJ in its current form will get phased out. Again I can't see a club having a controller installed because it is too personal. Every DJ has their set up. I do see more clubs leaving space for a controller and a line to plug in. Only time will tell.

You sound like someone who just got their feelings hurt and is now defensive. It's gonna be ok sunshine. Here's the truth --- this is an internet forum and it really doesn't matter what you or I say on here. So don't get so butt hurt over a stupid topic that no one knows the answer to.

Not at all my man, just stating my opinion. Everyone has their own ides and thought process, I may or may not say something that sparks a different idea in someones head where they say, hey, I never thought of it like that, and vice versa. Its the sharing of ideas. It may sound heated at times but thats OK, its about having a passion for DJing.