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    Quote Originally Posted by mostapha View Post
    It's just wrong that Serato has a harder job than NI.

    NI
    Traktor (Scratch) Pro....a mixer, 4 sound cards, 5 controllers, one that's brand new.
    Maschine....5 controllers, lots of bundled plugins, plus VST, AU, RTAS, and AAX versions of the application.
    Komplete..."75 products", 3 controllers, a sound card (if they still make the KA6), Maschine integration, compatibility with every DAW that supports VST, AU, RTAS, or AAX plugins. So, that part alone is more like 225 products and over a thousand combinations that could have issues.

    Serato
    A handful of plugins in a few formats.
    One updated DJ product.
    A couple dozen plugins (in-app purchases).
    Roughtly 3 pieces of hardware that they make.
    And compatibility with a bunch of stuff, but not nearly as much as Komplete.

    I'm sorry, but NI makes more stuff and has more to test. Period.

    It's been that way for a while.
    Well that's the first time anyone has ever put any thought into a post on this subject - and for that I thank you for stating what you and I see as blindingly obvious. There's hardware and software

    Quote Originally Posted by Mojaxx View Post
    I was just purely thinking of DJ stuff, not the production side.
    Yep, and that's the mistake a lot of people make.

    Most people that yack about this at the NI forum seem to think that the world revolves around Traktor when in fact it is the smallest part of the NI stable.

    Quote Originally Posted by Mojaxx View Post
    Getting Traktor up to speed should still be far easier than SDJ though; way less hardware involved.
    Or another way of seeing is that Serato have the advantage that Pioneer and various other hardware manufacturers can help with the process.

    It matters not. I never get anywhere with this subject. I have a guy that has joined the NI forum specifically to denounce NI for not having Yosemite compatibilty the same week as the OS was released because "even he has had the 10.10 beta for months"... again I refer to "idiots" that think that a whole product range (plus a new product range such as the S8 and Komplete stuff) can be fully tested on a beta OS. I can't even be bothered to reply to him.

    NI's caution is to everyones advantage... likewise Serato...... but everyone demands that mummy has their dinner on the table as soon as they are hungry.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Karlos Santos View Post
    Well that's the first time anyone has ever put any thought into a post on this subject - and for that I thank you for stating what you and I see as blindingly obvious. There's hardware and software
    Well....I'm a coder.

    Back in April, I was on a team developing an application for Android phones and Google Glass. Google broke everything a couple days before the presentation, and we ended up demoing screenshots from before the app was finished. The difference there is that you don't really have a choice on whether or not Glass updates itself.

    This was also the update that caused a large portion of the Glass devices out there to brick.

    Hours on the phone...researching...re-writing tons of code...re-writing tests...eventually having to get a warranty replacement on hardware.

    And that's one of the biggest and most successful tech companies on the planet with a little app because of a dot upgrade.

    If you haven't done it, you have no voice to criticize with. Just don't update on day 0. Issue resolved.

    Besides, it's been years since an OS X release actually advanced anything significant. Now, it just adds shit to the list of things to turn off and usually doesn't even come close to keeping up with upstream sources for lower-level tools.

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    NI's Latest Statement:

    "Mac OS X (10.10) Yosemite Compatibility News

    Native Instruments has conducted compatibility tests with Mac OS X 10.10 Yosemite which have shown current NI products to work without any specific issues under standard installations of this operating system.

    However, products with a hardware dependency, such as Maschine, Komplete Kontrol, Traktor, Guitar Rig and Controller Editor will not launch when AVIDs CoreAudioManager/Drivers are installed under 10.10 Yosemite. Native Instruments and Avid are working together to resolve this compatibility issue.

    Native Instruments is currently conducting further systematic compatibility and performance tests with the release version of Yosemite, and will provide new information as it becomes available."

    http://www.native-instruments.com/en...tibility-news/
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    Interesting. I do not believe I have AVIDs CoreAudioManager/Drivers installed, yet my Audio 6 didn't work till I put that code into Terminal.

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    What code?

    I do have Avid's CoreAudio Manager installed on my Macs, so I guess it's a good thing I waited. Also, because pro tools.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Craig Willis View Post
    To get my Audio 6 to work on 10.10 I did the following:-

    Finder
    Application
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    Then typed in the following command

    sudo nvram boot-args="kext-dev-mode=1"

    Enter your password when it prompt you and the re-boot.

    What does this do??


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    Oh. That. It sets a boot argument that let's the kernel run unsigned kernel extensions. It's made for developers to test them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by djmichaelk View Post
    Hey everyone before i install the lastest OSX can anyone give some updated experiences with Yosemite and TSP 2 thanks.
    OK to keep on the original thread of updated experiences I updated my Mac to Yosemite and I run the latest version of TSP2 with a Pioneer DJM T1.
    I have zero issues and everything works fine. For the limited time it has been on my Mac everything also appears completely stable.

    Hope this helps
    TSP2, Rane 64, 2x SL1210 (restored and customised), Shure M44-7 Carts, X1 Mk 2, Launchpad.

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    Hey All you guys deleting the audio driver of pro tools helped with the traktor freeze. All you had to do was go to your audio folder > plugins> HaL > avid core audio , delete that and restart you laptop. your tsp2 should work flawless now . it was the avid driver that didn't integrate with Yosemite. now my traktor works good as new. Credits to the guy at NI for that find. here a link to other suff you want too delete from the avid pro tools that might help too.

    http://www.sweetwater.com/sweetcare/...ols-macintosh/

    on that quick note good luck guys!
    Last edited by eddynator97; 10-22-2014 at 07:30 PM.

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    Not sure what happend but I can't get Traktor to recognize my X1 MK1. When I plug it in I get the light show but then in Traktor when or if I go to calibration of the X1, I get no X1 present or attached. Any ideas? Everything else works.

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