Has The Pirate Bay Ship Finally Sunk.

[DvlsAdvct]

No, it's not as simple as turning the bug off. My point is that if Pirate Bay's intent was to provide a legal resource then they could have worked to restrict and limit illegal sharing. Yes, there are ways to do it. No, it's not as simple as coding off a bug.

But it still comes down to intent. If The Pirate Bay's intent was to create a resource for illegal file sharing then they have broken the laws of the land. Unfortunately the legal system has not caught up to this global internet system yet, but it will.

Keep in mind that i am not a fan of copyright laws. I think they should be changed. I think that the system needs to be broken down and restructured.

BUT if you knowingly break the law, even with the best of intentions, you are still breaking the law.

[djhipnotikk]

So let me get this straight. A person should spend hours and hours, days, weeks, and years of their life dedicated to an art they love and should expect to not be compensated for it? What? That doesn't make any sense, whatsoever.

I want to get paid as a DJ. Does that mean I don't have the passion? After all the money and time I spend, which I think is definitely worth something, I should expect compensation for the service I provide. I could never expect the artist that is providing the works that I create my trade with to not be compensated.

I don't think anyone deserves to be paid millions and millions of dollars for writing a good trance song, but who is? I also don't think that PVD, AVB, Tiesto, or any of these big name DJs should be paid $40,000 a gig. But there is a big difference between profit, making a living, dedicating ones life to their passions, and greed. If profit is greed then I am greedy for working a job that pays me enough to be able to do the things I enjoy.

I think, what it comes down to for TPB is this: intent. If I build a contraption that can break car and home alarms at the push of a button, but has the nasty side effect of being a wireless memory card. My intent was not to build a wireless memory card, but I have. If I sell this unit, and someone gets caught stealing a car with it I (and they) will go to jail, regardless of the positive application of the product.

The Pirate's Bay, in my mind, was created to circumvent copyright laws. If it wasn't they would have worked to stop it from happening. Just like if I had built my product to be a wireless memory card that had the unfortunate side effect of scrambling home alarm systems, I would work to have that bug turned off. *shrug* And then I would not go to jail.

i wasn't really targeting anyone making money, maybe i should be more clear:

people who are complaining about not making *enough* money, and therefore saying that they think they deserve more than they are earning, should gtfo. if you're not making the money you want, work harder. don't just expect it to come.

and in respect to the PB issue, it's a lot more complicated than that. the methods people are using to transfer illegal files can be so advanced it's almost damn near impossible to stop them. if someone uploads an illegal file with a seemingly-legit filename (ex. Master's Thesis 2009 or some other bs), how are you supposed to catch it? this is merely one example. this is why i say don't go after TPB, go after the people uploading the illegal stuff. alas, that is the problem, as previously stated it is almost impossible.

[Karlos Santos]

http://musically.com/blog/2009/04/23...-affiliations/

It seems (as we all knew) that this is about to get even more stupid.

It would also seem that , just like every other country in the world the Swedish Justice System is corrupt and far from the Forward Thinking and Fair system that we in the UK are led to believe.

Despite my thoughts on TPB i cant see how this case judgement can be allowed to stand now.

I smell a re-trial.

[tekki]

Would be the only logical result, tbh!

[Karlos Santos]

Yeah i think a re-trial would get them off cus i dont think the Swedish have the stomach for all this again. I see them as a pretty forgiving lot which is in no way a criticism .
They are just more relaxed than us Brits with our poles stuck up our asses making a fuss about everything!!!

[DvlsAdvct]

It depends on whether or not they can prove the judge had a strict conflict of interest. It's odd that no one would have thought to bring it up in the first place. I have a feeling that people knew this was the case before the case even began, but they were waiting to see the outcome to claim a conflict.

Not that it matters, cause now it's in the public opinion land, and we all know how wonderful that is.

[darrel855]

Only a Sith Deals in Absolutes lets get em guys ! LOL

[BentoSan]

http://musically.com/blog/2009/04/23...-affiliations/

Wow that's a really bad conflict of interest right there, it doesn't surprise me that the trial was corrupt. From my understanding of the law in that country TPB is legal - but i guess we will see because this obviously the last that we will hear about all of this.