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    Quote Originally Posted by Xonetacular View Post
    You only need one K2 to control all the DB4 loopers.
    I know that . But can you have deck controls (in whatever SW) and use the looper functionality at the same time?

    @NoieuNit - I am going to 'try' and finish my 3 deck/4 fx mapping for the X1/F1 combo. If you're interested I'll go over it more with ya.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DarioJ View Post
    I know that . But can you have deck controls (in whatever SW) and use the looper functionality at the same time?

    @NoieuNit - I am going to 'try' and finish my 3 deck/4 fx mapping for the X1/F1 combo. If you're interested I'll go over it more with ya.
    ooh that sounds interesting, been meaning to make more remix sets and use more buttons and knobs on the F1 also been trying to get FX on my 3 and 4 deck so yes i would be interested!

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    For some crazy reason I find myself desiring the DB4 possibly a 92 with Audio 10 instead but I like the idea of the sound card built in, fx and looper on the DB4.

    I have many setups. Rane 62+(2) Denon 3900's, Ecler Evo 4+Rane SL3+(2) Pioneer CDJ-400's, S4 and DDJ-SX along with two more CDJ-850's. I also have a Maschine MKII, APC40, F1 and a A&H Zed10FX mixer.

    I have been working on producing more music and I would like the new soundcard/mixer to function as my bedroom studio as well as travel with me to some gigs.

    I really like the idea of syncing traktor and maschine (or ableton) together and I have done it with my S4, but I am too limited with the output routing. My concern with the DB4 is that there is only 4 "soundcard" channels. I don't know how the workflow would feel like so I am asking those of you who have similar setups what you think. My issue with the audio 10 and 92 is that is a lot of cables to fiddle with whenever I want to move it, no looper/fx.

    Is (3) traktor decks and (1) maschine/ableton channel enough? I mean there is so much I could do with maschine and ableton that I may not need remix decks at all. It seems that the DB4 with 2 more stereo USB in's would give so much more flexibility.

    I love the idea of using less USB ports with XLINK and I am curious if I could somehow use a K2 as a soundcard for Maschine or Ableton at the same time as using the DB4 for Traktor. If it can be configured, how would I cue the K2 through headphones?

    I hope someone can follow along with my thinking and lend a hand, thanks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DJXpoZur View Post
    Is (3) traktor decks and (1) maschine/ableton channel enough? I mean there is so much I could do with maschine and ableton that I may not need remix decks at all. It seems that the DB4 with 2 more stereo USB in's would give so much more flexibility.
    Some of us are still on three decks ;p

    Honestly Ableton's so powerful you don't really need the 3 decks of Traktor. I'd certainly happily swap one traktor deck for an entire ableton session.
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    I tried to incorporate Maschine into my current Traktor setup, but for me, it was too much to add in at the time. Adding in Maschine does give a lot of more functionality depending on what you want it to do and are willing to do (mapping wise). I say this because it obviously gives you its native functions and/or ableton functions, but also lends its self to Midi mode.

    What I did to you use Maschine:

    DB4 - Traktor - 3 decks
    Maschine - Audio 2
    Channel - A = output 1 (Audio out) - B = output 2 (monitor)
    Output 1 - plugged into channel 4 analog Via RCA
    Output 2 - plugged into Mic channel Via RCA

    I would presume that you can do the same with a K2 and a set of RCA to the DB4. You may be able to accomplish this with 'Jack OSX' using virtual connections.
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    Yeah I was going to suggest JACK but then I don't really know about JACK on windows/mac so I kept my trap shut

    JACK is awesome.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DJXpoZur View Post
    For some crazy reason I find myself desiring the DB4 possibly a 92 with Audio 10 instead but I like the idea of the sound card built in, fx and looper on the DB4.

    I have many setups. Rane 62+(2) Denon 3900's, Ecler Evo 4+Rane SL3+(2) Pioneer CDJ-400's, S4 and DDJ-SX along with two more CDJ-850's. I also have a Maschine MKII, APC40, F1 and a A&H Zed10FX mixer.

    I have been working on producing more music and I would like the new soundcard/mixer to function as my bedroom studio as well as travel with me to some gigs.

    I really like the idea of syncing traktor and maschine (or ableton) together and I have done it with my S4, but I am too limited with the output routing. My concern with the DB4 is that there is only 4 "soundcard" channels. I don't know how the workflow would feel like so I am asking those of you who have similar setups what you think. My issue with the audio 10 and 92 is that is a lot of cables to fiddle with whenever I want to move it, no looper/fx.

    Is (3) traktor decks and (1) maschine/ableton channel enough? I mean there is so much I could do with maschine and ableton that I may not need remix decks at all. It seems that the DB4 with 2 more stereo USB in's would give so much more flexibility.

    I love the idea of using less USB ports with XLINK and I am curious if I could somehow use a K2 as a soundcard for Maschine or Ableton at the same time as using the DB4 for Traktor. If it can be configured, how would I cue the K2 through headphones?

    I hope someone can follow along with my thinking and lend a hand, thanks.
    xpozur
    One idea is to map the K2 as a software mixer in Traktor and route the sound to one channel on the DB4. Then your free up some channels for Ableton.
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    so I've recently discovered the DB4 is not able to be aggregated in the OSX audio settings...apparently due to the fact that it bypasses CoreAudio drivers and communicates with the OS kernel directly (to improve latency per A&H?). Forgive me if this has all been discussed earlier in this thread...I did a forum search and didn't find much, but I'm trying to figure out a way to route traktor to Ableton using the DB4. Since I can't aggregate it with SoundFlower this seems impossible. I also can't seem to get Jack OSX to do the trick for me either, unless I'm missing something. Has anyone figured out how to get the audio from the 4 Traktor decks routed into into ableton, then rerouted out of the DB4?

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    I haven't tried this but can't you get Traktor to talk to Ableton over Jack (or soundflower) and then get Ableton to talk directly to the DB4? Traktor doesn't have to even know the DB4 is connected, does it? Neither program requires the sound card to be chosen in the MacOS settings (as far as I know).... Anyway I haven't tried it and it's not unusual for me to talk out my ass, so sorry if this advice is useless
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    http://blog.dubspot.com/traktor-to-a...o-route-audio/

    I used this and got it working .

    On a side note I noticed last night when I press cue for listening to a track for mixing in and do any adjustments to the track or add effects the track audio doesn't change in the headphones is this normal or has it change since the firmware update . Not used the mixer much since the update thought you could hear any changes before.
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