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    Hey,
    Does anyone know if there is comparison table specifically for the timecode frequency of the leading DVS programs? Some companies use exactly the same frequency, and hence the same timecode records.

    I know that Serato is 1khz, and Traktor is 2khz - but that's about it!

    A table listing all the frequencies of the different timecode vinyls would be very useful.
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    As far as i know everyone uses 1khz, except for NI that used 2khz

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    Just found this info on the Tonetable website:

    1.0 kHz - as used by Scratch Live
    1.2 kHz - as used by Torq (Torq pilot frequency = 1,205.859375 Hz)
    1.3 kHz - as used by MixVibes
    2.0 kHz - as used by Traktor Scratch

    What about MsPinky? Can anyone confirm that the MsPinky control vinyl is the same frequency as the Torq vinyl?

    Anybody know any more?
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    I pretty sure that Ms Pinky uses the same Timecode as Torq.
    The link is at the bottom of this page:http://www.mspinky.com/WreckedSystem_RecordSignal.html

    Im defintely sure that Native Instrument timecode has the highest of all DVS. Of that i am 100% certain. 2khz is the best available.

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    yeah i believe that torq timecode system is actually built from the mspinky timecode system

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    Cool. Thought so. Next question has to be - which DVS software works well with which timecode vinyl? ALSO - a lot of different DVS software is ACTAULLY the same piece of software, but re-packaged with a different GUI (I'm pretty sure that Numark Cue is just DJDecks with a new GUI).

    So - can anyone provide details of which Timecode Vinyl works with which software?

    I know that Serato Timecode Vinyl works VERY well with DJDecks. Can anyone confirm if Traktor Vinyl works well with any other software?
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    I can tell you 100% that Traktor timecode wont work with any other DVS.
    I wouldnt know about Serato but if im being really honest the only 2 DVS that i have any experience of and therefore can recomend are Traktor and Serato. They are the best of the bunch.

    The timecode of one may work with another DVS but that doesnt mean that those 2 DVS are the same. GUI is veru important. Midi capabilities will be vastly different. Looping functions/Sync/FX will all be different.

    If you dont want all those features then Serato may be a good choice.
    If you want 4 decks and loads of features then look at Traktor.

    But my opinion is heavily biased towards Traktor for various reasons.

    The thing with DVS is it is a much more temperamental animal than midi controller lead software.
    If you put togther a budget DVS it will give you no end of hassle.

    (someone will step in here and say that all timecode will work it just plays at different speeds, whats the point of that)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Patch View Post
    ALSO - a lot of different DVS software is ACTAULLY the same piece of software, but re-packaged with a different GUI (I'm pretty sure that Numark Cue is just DJDecks with a new GUI).

    So - can anyone provide details of which Timecode Vinyl works with which software?
    numark cue is just virtualdj in slightly different clothes. I don't believe either have anything to do with DJDecks.

    There was a recent court battle between the creators of the first DVS vs M-audio, might be of interest to u to read the court papers to get a better understanding of how the popular dvs programs diverged from this single one.

    good luck

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    The timecode itself doesnt make so much of a difference.

    The hard part is all in the coding of the algorithms that track the vinyl and their ability to do error detection - thats where all your money goes when you buy a decent program.

    As far as this tracking ability goes Traktor and Serato pretty much dominate the scene.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Karlos Santos View Post
    I can tell you 100% that Traktor timecode wont work with any other DVS.

    (someone will step in here and say that all timecode will work it just plays at different speeds, whats the point of that)
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