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    I'm looking at designing my own midi controller and I'm interested in finding out more about 14 bit midi. Hi-resolution faders and pots for everything just sounds super sweet to me. I can see that the Vestax VCI-300 and the Xponent both use this technology - and importantly that traktor can use it - but I can't seem to find much info in terms of midi DIY kits. Can anyone help me?

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    Ok with a little more indepth searching I think this -

    http://code.google.com/p/cui32/

    May actually do what I'm looking for. Seems like this particular chip can be setup to do a whole lot of things though.

    I am feeling a little out of my depth but it is relatively cheap and it doesn't require any usb->serial devices or anything like that get started hacking. hmmmm

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    With midi only having 128 positons(as far as I know) this might not help much.

    *edit nevermind I think I am wrong about that... 7bit is 127
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    I'm still waiting for someone to build a more precise hardware setup in a VCI-100(SE) casing. That would make such an awesome mod.
    I have some low-level programming skills, but lack the soldering skills, time and money to build such a thing myself.
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    Well this chip seems to run entirely on BASIC. Which suits me as proper low-level assembler type languages are something ran running and screaming from 10+ years ago when I studied it at uni.

    Might it be possible/easier to convert from HID or OSC to midi at the computer level?

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    The first version CUI has some features in this way... it will be interesting if somebody port to the new CUI32x...

    About Hid2midi/osc... well if your thinking or use it with Traktor, ITCH or maxforlive you don't need to convert: Hid is the best way but you must need to code/script.

    If you need 14 bits (sysex midi) then you must code... and with software I advice you pure data (for bridgering from Hid2midi).

    some interesting links, ok!

    Check down in Firmwares... OSC, MIDI and HID...
    http://www.create.ucsb.edu/~dano/CUI/


    it is 7 bits but interesting, don't you think?
    http://www.casainho.net/tiki-index.p...MIDI+turntable


    And at last... what are you thinking on develop?



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    Still toying with the possibilities of design. I love the simpicity of these dj mixers .... http://www.electronique-spectacle.com/ ... I want to start my design with big fat rotary dials for all the fundamental controls (and if i have that level of control I'd like high resolution). Instead of the knobs for individual EQ I want to use minisliders like this vestax mixer http://www.sounds4uentertainment.co....s/resize-1.jpg

    Then include a small matrix of buttons to use for cue points - similar to a monome but probably 5x5 to keep it all compact.

    And I'd like to try doing pitch nudge with 4 x strip controllers. I have an inkling that this would be an intuitive way of doing it.

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    Hey and thanks for all the links

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    For something simple as volume faders or eq knobs, you dont need hi-res midi, 7-bit works just fine. The only thing that needs 14bit is the pitch fader imo.

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