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    Quote Originally Posted by Mudo View Post
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    Controllerism is "conceptualized" by Moldover to "separate" himself from turntablism because he uses some "techniques" but not turntables.

    Nowadays with DVS I could send Midi and OSC with my regular turntable and I am...

    turntablist approarching to controllerism?

    perhaps but I have integrated my arduinome (osc controller) and my vestax vci 100 to some "tricks" and then I am...

    controllerist approarching to turntablism?

    No. I'm still a Free Human Creative outside all these "mind jails".

    I use tooltablism to integrate any "tool" (turntable as a tool not only as a instrument) in my attempt to fill the gap and build a bridge between all this "organized desesperation".


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    despite my long ass essay i do agree with this though. again it's personal preference at the end of the day.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BradCee View Post
    well, no, it isn't. if someone called themselves a turntablist then just a/b mixed with no scratching or other tricks they'd be called out straight away.
    wait what. i'm confused, did you think i was addressing your post - i was addressing the OP.

    turntables =/= turntablist
    controllers =/= controllerist
    was my point, then you echoed my sentiment...

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    Quote Originally Posted by BradCee View Post
    to sum up my thoughts on all aspects of dj/mixing styles;
    dj - a/b mixes, maybe some effects between transitions, uses tt, cdj or software
    turntablist - scratches, does mental routines using double ups and other tricks, works mainly on tt, possibly with dvs can be done on cdj. can use controllers
    dex n fx - done with more than 2 tts or cdjs (any combination) uses samplers or sampler style effects, remixes and mashes up live. could also encompass dvs/controller hybrid set-ups, but has a different workflow/sound to turntablism.
    controllerism - combination of turntablism, dex n fx and cue juggles in any ratio/combination done on controllers, if tt/cdj timecode is involved then it's either turntablism or dex n fx dependent on workflow

    maybe some of that is too black and white, but as a guideline i think it works to illustrate my opinion.
    we should make a DJTT dictionary. i agree with these as a rough definition
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    Quote Originally Posted by duerr View Post
    wait what. i'm confused, did you think i was addressing your post - i was addressing the OP.
    i wanted to expand the on the sentence i quoted as it got me thinking further, that's why i popped your name out of the quote code.


    Quote Originally Posted by jdog667jkt View Post
    we should make a DJTT dictionary. i agree with these as a rough definition
    thanks

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    How Many DJs Does It Take To Change A Light Bulb...???

    Who knows, no-one seems to know what a fuckin DJ is these days.

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    personally, i think the term "controllerist" is kind of pretentious. is "dj" really not enough anymore?

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    Quote Originally Posted by BradCee View Post
    i wanted to expand the on the sentence i quoted as it got me thinking further, that's why i popped your name out of the quote code.
    oh i see.... you bastard.

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    Quote Originally Posted by duerr View Post
    personally, i think the term "controllerist" is kind of pretentious. is "dj" really not enough anymore?
    DJ is plenty.

    More than plenty...

    Whats wrong with being a DJ and saying "Im a DJ".
    Sure you can explain further how you DJ and what you use to DJ but yadda yadda yadda... your a DJ, especially if your standing in front of people making them dance playing other peoples tunes.

    This is a never ending discussion.


    I very much doubt a girl/boy has ever said "I f*cked that controllerist last nite"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Karlos Santos View Post
    DJ is plenty.

    More than plenty...

    Whats wrong with being a DJ and saying "Im a DJ".
    Sure you can explain further how you DJ and what you use to DJ but yadda yadda yadda... your a DJ, especially if your standing in front of people making them dance playing other peoples tunes.

    This is a never ending discussion.


    I very much doubt a girl/boy has ever said "I f*cked that controllerist last nite"
    from post before my long rant

    Quote Originally Posted by BradCee View Post
    if you feel you do more than a > b > a > b, then use a 'buzz' word when describing what you do, but don't define yourself with it.

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    I'm with Karlos on this one. Can't we all just get along.
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