Harmonic Mixing

**aiden** · 06-07-2008, 03:35 PM

ok, so does the pattern continue?

i.e.
your in 11A; add 7, and your back to 6A?

**amadora** · 06-07-2008, 05:57 PM

Originally Posted by aiden

ok, so does the pattern continue?

i.e.
your in 11A; add 7, and your back to 6A?

Yes. The Camelot notation translates to musical keys and is an endless cycle.

You can see how that translate to an actual instrument, such as piano keys:

The pattern just repeats and repeats.

Hope this helps

**kidfromkibbly** · 06-08-2008, 03:36 PM

All the pretty colours!!!! :eek:

**Nicky_Laws** · 06-16-2008, 10:28 AM

Here's what I did with harmonic mixing.

I downloaded the free app called "rapid evolution 2" (mixshare.com) this app can detect the song's key. Install that, and import all your tracks, set your 'key' options to show the camelot codes (11A/3B/5A ...etc)

Export that as a traktor playlist. Now when you are in traktor your playlist has a new column called key!

This is great because if you click on the column header for KEY, it arranges all your songs in order, so all your '1A's' will be all together, all your '3B's' will be all together.

Now all you basically do is just go up and down the list, its pretty much 'up one number' or 'down one number'.

So, if you start with a song that has a key of '5a' your set could pretty much look like this

5a-5a-6b-7a-8a-7b-7b-8a-8a-8a-8a-9b-9b-10a-11b-12b etc.

**cmcpress** · 06-16-2008, 12:11 PM

Originally Posted by amadora

Jumping up/down 1 or 2 semitones works (translated to Camelot, add/subtract 7 or 2, respectively). As with all mixing, trust your ears and do what sounds best

This is taken from the forums at MixedInKey.com:

Hmmm - i'm not convinced that would sound good at all overlayed over the top of each other. If i had one track in Cm and modulated to Db Minor it would sound really unpleasant - unless the tracks go from one key to another with no overlapping music or a quick cut - which kind of defies the point of harmonic "mixing" IMHO. I'm pretty sensitive to key clashes and that would definitely clash.

Having said that - modulating up a semitone is a well known trick in Motown and 60's music for giving it that lift - so quick cuts might well get the same "lift" effect. Just don't overlap the musical parts!

**djalexlaine** · 06-16-2008, 01:50 PM

ive mixed d minor to e minor (7a-9a) as well as d minor and e flat minor (7a-2a) and both sound fine.

**aiden** · 06-19-2008, 09:57 AM

OK, i see the relationship of the keys when u jump 1 or 2 semitones (2 or 7 on the camelot chart). Now, what i don't get is the relationships on the camelot chart (1a-2a, etc)
What does A-flat(1a) have to do with E-flat(2a)?

**aiden** · 06-19-2008, 11:02 AM

Originally Posted by aiden

OK, i see the relationship of the keys when u jump 1 or 2 semitones (2 or 7 on the camelot chart). Now, what i don't get is the relationships on the camelot chart (1a-2a, etc)
What does A-flat(1a) have to do with E-flat(2a)?

Had to dig back into my introduction to music course and find that answer. The beginning of the E-flat minor scale is the end of the A-flat minor scale.

like u cared.