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    Default Using Phase Meter when mixing externally.

    So my new set-up has be running two CDJs in HID mode in TPro allow with my controller and Midifighter for added effects. Now before I mixed internally and since my beat grids are spot on, I sync'd tracks.

    Now, that is not my intention since I went the external route. Beatmatching is something I am practicing at, but find that it is extremely easy to do when looking at the Phase Meter and BPM in traktor...takes on a few seconds, opposed to a minute or so manually.

    For those of you mixing externally, timecode, HID, whatever, do you use the Phase Meter and BPM detection in Traktor to make beat matching quick and painless?
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    I mix externally (using Traktor Pro), I still use sync and beat grids...why wouldn't you?
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    I use sync, but I'm on four decks...
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    If you're using the phase meters you're not really beat matching, you're just doing whatever the computer tells you to do.

    Practice makes perfect... It is miserable at first though.

    I'd recommend burning some CDs and doing it the old fashioned way if all you're doing is trying to learn how to beat match.

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    as above, burn some cds off and practice like he said
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    Burning CDs is old fashioned?! Jeez, I must be getting old.
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    I don't have vinyl anymore, but still manage to practice beat matching by finding a song on youtube and matching it with Traktor using my Numark Mixtrack.
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    I think if you manually beatmatch with the phasemeter and BPM counter, you aren't beatmatching at all. If you want to learn to beatmatch turn them off and start training your ears for the task, it's the only way to learn.

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    Quote Originally Posted by padi_04 View Post
    I think if you manually beatmatch with the phasemeter and BPM counter, you aren't beatmatching at all. If you want to learn to beatmatch turn them off and start training your ears for the task, it's the only way to learn.
    I agree with this as well. I was just curious what everyone was doing. Doesn't Serato basically have the same deal, where you can line up the grids?

    Basically what I wanted to know is, should the phase meter and bpm be turned off in traktor?
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    If you want to learn to do it the manual way, then do it the manual way.

    If not, who cares? It's just DJ wankery at this point.

    I did have an issue today that I hadn't actually gone though and fixed the beat grid for a track…mixing internally. It was interesting moving a beat grid around so that it was right during the transition. I guess I should make a note to go back and fix that track, but…whatever. It's probably a good idea to be able to do things the old fashioned way in case something goes wrong, but…IMHO, that's the only reason…unless you want to switch to SSL or spin on CDs just because you want to.

    Then again, CDJ-2000s have beat grids. They don't do sync, but matching numbers and getting songs in phase isn't hard if you put in a bit of time training yourself to hear it. Especially with clubs starting to get those things, the manual way is a thing of the past except for vinyl purists.

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