Traktor mapping tips, tricks and questions.

[zeldaleft]

Sorry, your videos are too basic and rather unhelpful. Of course I know how to MIDI map, and have been doing so a long time. what I DONT know how to do is the question i asked: save, map and then load custom FX parameters with a single button, as is done in both the IG and the deckalized mappings.

[zestoi]

Sorry, your videos are too basic and rather unhelpful. Of course I know how to MIDI map, and have been doing so a long time. what I DONT know how to do is the question i asked: save, map and then load custom FX parameters with a single button, as is done in both the IG and the deckalized mappings.

looking at his tsi is a good place to start....

you just need to map multiple controls to a single button. for this you'd want to map "Effect X Select" and "Effect X Amount" and "Effect X On" and then also enable it in the mixer with a "Effect Unit Y On" all to one button on your controller...

so you turn on the fx unit, select the right fx and setting and then also turn on that fx unit for the deck in question with a single button press...

[zeldaleft]

I had all that down, but didnt realize that if you set effect amount to button, you can then set the value (and preset the amount of the effect). i had previously only mapped fx to knobs n faders, and didnt know better. Thanks anyway!

[VanGogo]

Sorry, your videos are too basic and rather unhelpful. Of course I know how to MIDI map, and have been doing so a long time. what I DONT know how to do is the question i asked: save, map and then load custom FX parameters with a single button, as is done in both the IG and the deckalized mappings.

The playlist I directed you to is about basic beginner midi mapping in Traktor, and they are very helpful if you are just getting started.(and none of those are my videos)
I assumed, because you did not know how to map a "super button", that you could use these tutorials. My mistake, and I apologize if you were offended. The reason I made that assumption is because your question was about mapping something really simple. I didn't want to start throwing mapping commands at you if you didn't know the basics.

My videos are also basic stuff, but at least 2 of them would have answered your question, and I would have directed you straight to them if I had known you knew how to map already.

[mardogz]

Hello DJTT!!
Enjoy this site tremendously. I've never posted before; I never really needed to. I can't seem to find any good answers on how to import a tsi file into an Excel spreadsheet. This is my task at hand, as I need to do this to build the best tsi possible for my new MPK mini, Using TSP2. This controller seems to have few pre-existing tsi files available for it. I have my own preliminary mapping, but need to modify it to get it JUUUST RIGHT! My nanoPad mapping is cool, for a nanoPad (on my second one, cool but flimsy). I have since found I need more control options within a set so... I now have the Traktor Bible (a big help!!!), and have gotten a few rather respectable tsi files such as Ean's Oxygen mapping, chosen for the similar format of the devices. Too many obvious differences to be able to just use it "as is", plus I need to modify the tsi for my own needs. It would be nice to just print a particular tsi file's commands out to inspect and study, as well as to be able to debug my own tsi when completed. It would be nice also if said tool would be able to import changes made in a tsi file back into the Traktor interface. That function would just be an added bonus, though. In my search, I have found where it appears that Rainer had developed a tool for this very function, but it seems it has been abandoned a while back. I don't feel it necessary to explain what a tremendous advantage it would be to simply be able to look at midi tsi file commands on a spreadsheet. If it were to be possible, (which it has to be, right? haha) there seems to be an issue that would arise with the "Button Options" field at the bottom of each mapping control. The value that corresponds to the control isn't carried up into the spreadsheet-style selection menu. I am under the assumption that this section is all that would be imported into an Excel spreadsheet though? One remedy I guess would be to notate that same value into the "Comment" field by hand, which IS carried over to the spreadsheet format. Any info on this subject would be appreciated. Thanks!

[zestoi]

Hello DJTT!!
I can't seem to find any good answers on how to import a tsi file into an Excel spreadsheet. !

because u can't

it's an odd ascii encoded binary format stored within xml. afaik no one has been able to decode it - and even if we could and be able to recreate they'd probably change the format in a later update anyway....

the controller editor isn't ideal but you just need to sort on the columns that make the most sense and search through to find what you want to change.

[mardogz]

Das sheiß!! Thanks for quick post zestoi. Yes, I guess I will just be glad we have it as good as we do! NI deserves kudos on a sweet sweet DJ app and thanks as well for the ability to map our tools so well. That being said, what is the reasoning behind not letting us export or even just have a "print" button coded into the controller menu section I wonder? No, it's not bad... but it would be awesome to be able to look at and debug my tsi when I'm not using Traktor... i.e. at lunch when at work (during work... hehe), on vacation, just anytime you were away from your setup, but still wanted to line out your midi mapping or brainstorm of new controller ideas. No, this little inconvenience won't stop me from "gettin' my map on"... I guess I'm just sore from writing out possible new controller ideas by hand - haha! Happy controllerisming, e'rbody!

[zestoi]

what is the reasoning behind not letting us export or even just have a "print" button coded into the controller menu section I wonder? No, it's not bad... but it would be awesome to be able to look at and debug my tsi when I'm not using Traktor... i.e. at lunch when at work (during work... hehe), on vacation, just anytime you were away from your setup, but still wanted to line out your midi mapping or brainstorm of new controller ideas.

i have clue why really... tho if they made the format more 'human readable' then
they'd have to do error checking etc on the reimport etc - but that wouldn't be too much of a big deal. i think in pre-traktor-pro the xml was modifiable. some of it still is - but the cool controller stuff isn't. it's still in the xml but in an odd encoded format.

having said all that.... this is exactly the reason (well partly anyway) that i've been developing my own app to sit between traktor+ableton etc and my controllers and handles all traktor mapping internally via one big traktor tsi i created that maps all the ins and outs to 'names' that the app/script can manipulate.

[mardogz]

having said all that.... this is exactly the reason (well partly anyway) that i've been developing my own app to sit between traktor+ableton etc and my controllers

Well best of luck to you zestoi; maybe you'll conquer this issue. I may check around and see what I can drum up as far as just getting a simple print out of commands, but that would be all I could ever hope to accomplish. I haven't run into any barriers to speak of that necessitates anything further, but I run output thru another separate cubase rig to handle recording and some other issues, so I don't have to worry so much about Traktor as a "complete solution". I know, not only in the digital DJ realm I get far too bogged down in the technical aspects and it takes away from the creativity, which is what it's SUPPOSED to be about!! Maybe someday I'll have things set to where I can just create... But I doubt that (my techie twiddle demon would never allow this)!

[zestoi]

I know, not only in the digital DJ realm I get far too bogged down in the technical aspects and it takes away from the creativity, which is what it's SUPPOSED to be about!! Maybe someday I'll have things set to where I can just create... But I doubt that (my techie twiddle demon would never allow this)!

well that's definately another reason why i'm working on this app i could have just made do with the controls and basic mapping tweaks and even midikatapult and actually spent more time mixing... but nah... lol besides.... this is me trying to get back into dj'ing with quite a few years break from traditional dj'ing and music production and the reduced boundaries between dj'ing and live performance intrigues me...