our moderators do a great job indeed - ESPECIALLY for free!
it may be time to add some more moderators into the fold, as because people do it for nothing it can be hard for them to dedicate the time needed. a few more moderators may help spread the load and keep things in order?
you're right, the FAQ is both outdated AND easily skimmed over. it gets lost in amongst all the stickies. (i think we can unsticky the tshirt contest now)
you've all sold me on the idea that a dedicated newbie section isn't a good idea. its just a bandaid suggestion. constant newbie questions on same/similar topics tend to be steered off topic quickly and the helpful answers can get overlooked.
the suggested newbie forum wasn't to come across as an us vs them elitest thing, i want newbie's to get the help they come here for - especially the young ones (they are the future afterall). we were all newbies once upon a time!!
maybe the FAQ would be better suited as its own forum category rather than a sticky? that way people are more likely to see/read it, and the need for a 'newbie' section would possibly be reduced. a djtt faq wiki would be good for this also, but a dedicated general FAQ forum would be a lot less work!
not true, read back through.. most of, if not all topics were digital/dj related questions for a long time.
I agree with xtianw that some off topic chatter helps keep traffic flow and boosts morale when things go stale, heck i post the occasional OT myself.... but when a good percentage of new posts are OT posts, that can't be good for traffic - especially new traffic.
a potential new member with a question might get deterred from posting if they see 3/4 of the first page of the general discussion all OT without digging through a couple more pages.
karlos - yes too many half naked girls being posted (i know, i know.. trust me it was hard to type the words let alone say them out loud)... mods should be deleting the posts to ensure the high standard i guess.
i dont want to sound unappreciative and dont want people to get out of joint and take it the wrong way, i just want to try and help the community a little!
With newbies, there is a deeper issue at play than the newbie issue they cannot resolve. It is they can resolve them by a) the manual b) google c) forum search.
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Any one +1 from here, risk getting muted through my offtopic filter.
Like one exists right?
Where are they, will see to it.
We have talked about it, and there will be an addition of two others, though as I understand correctly, they have not yet been contacted by Bento.
If he has not done it by tomorrow 20h CET, I will take it upon myself contacting the soon to be new mods.
This is my promise to you, my dear DJTT Community members!
Just be sure to contact JesC, midifidler, fatlimey and myself, we will see this gets sorted ASAP!you're right, the FAQ is both outdated AND easily skimmed over. it gets lost in amongst all the stickies. (i think we can unsticky the tshirt contest now)
you've all sold me on the idea that a dedicated newbie section isn't a good idea. its just a bandaid suggestion. constant newbie questions on same/similar topics tend to be steered off topic quickly and the helpful answers can get overlooked.
This is actually a good point, though I think people will actually avoid it even more easily.maybe the FAQ would be better suited as its own forum category rather than a sticky? that way people are more likely to see/read it, and the need for a 'newbie' section would possibly be reduced. a djtt faq wiki would be good for this also, but a dedicated general FAQ forum would be a lot less work!
But I will discuss it with the other mods.
Yes this is true, only was this discussion amongst mods and administrators, behind the scenes and not for public.not true, read back through.. most of, if not all topics were digital/dj related questions for a long time.
Still, if the thread carries the [OT] marker, people know what's up.I agree with xtianw that some off topic chatter helps keep traffic flow and boosts morale when things go stale, heck i post the occasional OT myself.... but when a good percentage of new posts are OT posts, that can't be good for traffic - especially new traffic.
One more perfect example of why people should use 'search' more often.a potential new member with a question might get deterred from posting if they see 3/4 of the first page of the general discussion all OT without digging through a couple more pages.
I am deleting when it truly becomes NSFW. If it is still SFW it's cool by me.karlos - yes too many half naked girls being posted (i know, i know.. trust me it was hard to type the words let alone say them out loud)... mods should be deleting the posts to ensure the high standard i guess.
Hey, much appreciated!i dont want to sound unappreciative and dont want people to get out of joint and take it the wrong way, i just want to try and help the community a little!
No worries, about sounding non-appreciative, you've got some good points.
I'd rather have the members be sharp and critical, than have members state that the forums are shite, and don't have any solid arguments.
Once again a good point.
We do have a big moderator group, but there are only a few still heavily active.
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I just wanna give me two cents here.
The one thing I think that bugs me the most, is te member that are posting DJ mix and production work in the general fourm. There is alerady a forum set aside for that however everyone posts there mixes in the general forum. This really needs to be cleaned up, and users that violate that rule realy should get some kind of temporary ban maybe for a day at first but after three violations they get banned for a week.
Im a member on another forum called pocket fives, its a poker forum. If you post bad beats in the general poker forum they move them right away. then if you do it a few more time you get a two week ban.
Just a thought.
oh and a newbie thread is really a bad idea, no one but newbies will go there.
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i think this forum could benefit from an off-topic subforum where the regulars can take their non music/dj related conversations.
the general discussion forum is just way too cluttered and OT threads seem to account for at least a good 25% of the general discussion posts.
it's kind of ridiculous that if you don't log in for a couple days you have to go back like 10 pages to get caught up on what you've missed.
skipping 2 pages of reading and:
dont divide this. if there werent 3 topics on this 1 board i would never see the others.
the newb bored would just get clogged up
OT would be alright
and the GD might get forgotten. (at least by me), so then some wont see important news and such
the traffic flow would change to much
i was literally thinking about this before seeing this thread.
Banning's are NEVER PRODUCTIVE. PLEASE don't even entertain the idea.
Ban spammers, by all means. Ban trolls, by all means - but don't give genuine, active members temporary bans as punishments.
Please.
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