The reason WHY A&H sounds warmer than Pioneer

[SlvrDragon50]

I've messed around with all the Traktor settings, but they still don't compare to the A&H mixer.

Wish we could manually change the frequencies like on the DDM4000.

[mdcdesign]

I've messed around with all the Traktor settings, but they still don't compare to the A&H mixer.

Wish we could manually change the frequencies like on the DDM4000.

Tbh that, for me, is the KILLER feature of the RMX-80. I was considering the DDM, but having a per-channel filter knob AND adjustable EQ frequencies pretty much sold me on the RMX.

[Shishdisma]

Wish we could manually change the frequencies like on the DDM4000.

Frequency bands are set a certain way for a reason. Its a DJ mixer, not an FOH desk. You're using it to mix between two tracks, not tune the sound. Adjustable bands arent really helpful, but multiple bands (:92 and DJM-2000) are much more helpful. A EQ with adjustable frequencies is more likely to either annoy you, get set a weird way and annoy you more, or set at A&H/Pio stops and left there.

[SlvrDragon50]

Tbh that, for me, is the KILLER feature of the RMX-80. I was considering the DDM, but having a per-channel filter knob AND adjustable EQ frequencies pretty much sold me on the RMX.

Reloop is pretty much nonexistent in the US though. We only get decent deals on discontinued Reloop items.

[mdcdesign]

Frequency bands are set a certain way for a reason. Its a DJ mixer, not an FOH desk. You're using it to mix between two tracks, not tune the sound. Adjustable bands arent really helpful, but multiple bands (:92 and DJM-2000) are much more helpful. A EQ with adjustable frequencies is more likely to either annoy you, get set a weird way and annoy you more, or set at A&H/Pio stops and left there.

That's not strictly true... different frequency bands can be very useful when playing different genres of music. As a DJ, you're in the perfect position to adjust things to suit the style of music that YOU play.

Reloop is pretty much nonexistent in the US though. We only get decent deals on discontinued Reloop items.

This is true Still, for those of us in the UK it's pretty widely available, just not as actively promoted as Numark/Gemini/Pioneer. They had a bit of an issue a couple of years ago as their UK distributors went tits up or something, so they were left completely without a supply chain over here. A new company has taken it over and seem to be doing pretty well now... a lot of the DJ stores in major cities are stocking Reloop now which is nice.

[Shishdisma]

That's not strictly true... different frequency bands can be very useful when playing different genres of music. As a DJ, you're in the perfect position to adjust things to suit the style of music that YOU play.

Not really. As long as the bands are all even, whatever you pull out of one track will still be present in the other. Where that point is isnt really relevant. The only kind of issue I can see is basslines that carry up into the low-mids, but even in that case, a broader EQ range wont help you if the other track doesn't have the same bleed, it's the tracks that don't blend anyway. The EQ range doesn't really do much for you, because the EQs are identical across the channels, and the tones evenly replace each other.

[SlvrDragon50]

That's not strictly true... different frequency bands can be very useful when playing different genres of music. As a DJ, you're in the perfect position to adjust things to suit the style of music that YOU play.



This is true Still, for those of us in the UK it's pretty widely available, just not as actively promoted as Numark/Gemini/Pioneer. They had a bit of an issue a couple of years ago as their UK distributors went tits up or something, so they were left completely without a supply chain over here. A new company has taken it over and seem to be doing pretty well now... a lot of the DJ stores in major cities are stocking Reloop now which is nice.

I wish we had more alternatives to Pioneer... Pioneer CDJs are just too damn expensive.

I really want to try out the Gemini, Denon, and Reloop CDJs. At least it seems like DJ gear in the US is much cheaper than the rest of the world.

[makar1]

Frequency bands are set a certain way for a reason. Its a DJ mixer, not an FOH desk. You're using it to mix between two tracks, not tune the sound. Adjustable bands arent really helpful, but multiple bands (:92 and DJM-2000) are much more helpful. A EQ with adjustable frequencies is more likely to either annoy you, get set a weird way and annoy you more, or set at A&H/Pio stops and left there.

+1. Adjustable EQ is just yet another way to tie you down to your bedroom equipment, leaving you unprepared for any other setup.

The Denon players are the only real alternative to Pioneer CDJs IMO, and are comparable to the 900/850.

[mdcdesign]

+1. Adjustable EQ is just yet another way to tie you down to your bedroom equipment, leaving you unprepared for any other setup.

The Denon players are the only real alternative to Pioneer CDJs IMO, and are comparable to the 900/850.

*shrug* I take all my equipment to whatever venue I'm playing at. If you saw the condition of most of the gear around here, you would too.

And the Denon SC-3900 is in a whole different league to the Pioneer stuff. It's the only CD player I would EVER consider purchasing, due to the moving platter. For everything else, MIDI is the better option.

[makar1]

A moving platter does not in itself put it in another league. If you require a moving platter then the 3900 is your only option, but there are many features on the high end Pioneers that the Denons do not have.

I thought you said you were playing on CDJ 2000s recently? Did you still bring your own mixer then?
Any decent club will have either a DJM or Xone in the booth...

Edit: It wasn't that long ago you said the Reloop players were the only ones you'd consider purchasing.