Why are 4band EQ's not more popular/available?

[GeekGod]

Did a search and could not really find what I am looking for..

My question is why are 4band EQ's the red headed step child of DJ mixers?

There seems to be very few of them out there and even the best of the best such as the DJM2000 does not have a dedicated knob for sub low (they apparently require you to reach into the bling bling LCD for the 7band).

So why are 4band EQs not more popular and available to us?

[MrPopinjay]

Sub low? They divide the mid into two knobs don't they?

I dunno really. I've never used them so I dunno if/how much I would find it beneficial.

[dj stifffy]

most companys dont make these since if you are playing in a club there is usually a multiband graphic eq, it gives the dj too much to worry about then, 3 band is perfect,
in theory it would be better to edit songs before hand to suit eq setup and "normalize" them, if its for an eq style trick im pretty sure for a big enough effect 3 would be better then 4 because 4 would be more subtle

[Paka Ono]

4 band EQs increase the cost of manufacturing mixer, which is already a tough and competitive market.

And you have to figure that the majority of clubs/venues don't have an A&H mixer installed so it's hard to incorporate 4 band EQs into your set if you can't guarantee that you will have access to a 4 band EQ mixer come performance time.

They are a luxury, but a nice and great sounding luxury for most DJs.

[amidoinitrite]

More knobs to turn that don't make much of a difference..
the main elements you hear in the mids usually cover the full mids..
Not much of a demand to divide it.
I've never used a 4 band mixer.. but I honestly wouldn't want to.
also the human ear reacts differently to highs/lows and mids..
so that could be a main reason why 3 bands have been standard.

[DigitalDevil]

Because Pioneer said so.

[bobbylight]

Because Pioneer said so.

+1. Pioneer runs shit.

4 band EQs increase the cost of manufacturing mixer, which is already a tough and competitive market.

I definitely see this as an issue of cost effectiveness for companies and why incorporate something that isn't essential when they can spend their time and money elsewhere on this mixer. I'm curious as to how well A&H's mixers equipped with a 4-band sold versus a 3-band.

[bartboy]

Just buy a ddm4000 and change the EQ settings you still only get three knobs but you get mush more control over what gets cut.

[MrPopinjay]

But then you're using a DDM4000 ;P

[amidoinitrite]

Just buy a ddm4000 and change the EQ settings you still only get three knobs but you get mush more control over what gets cut.

Or you can just buy an x1600 :P