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    Default Anyone have audio working with USB3?

    I upgraded my lappy this year and like most people went for the very latest build . I was pleased to see my new laptop has 2 x USB3 , i thought that would be great as I suspect that the next generation of audio devices will be USB3 and for now the ports will fallback (as designed) to USB2 when an apropriate device is connected.

    I was wrong!

    The problem I face, is that none of my audio gear, Denon, NI, Yamaha, CME, Korg works, the device is seen and installed, but will not work in real time or work at all (any audio stream).

    The chip used by many manufactures is the old NEC chip, now owned and branded Renesas. http://www2.renesas.com/usb/en/about_usb/USB3_3.html

    All the reports of poor perfomance and dropouts seem to have been addressed now, mainly focusing around external Hard disc, mice, printers etc.

    I have rasied the point many times, but Dell / Renesas say that it's such as small amount of calls that they don't see it as a problem.

    So my question again, has anyone got a working example of USB3 and MIDI / Audio.

    If you have, i would like to know what combination you have .. e.g.

    Mac Book Pro '11 - NiKontrol S4 - NEC chipset FW xx.xxx Driver version xxx
    Acer thing - audio device 1 - joebloggs chipset - FW 12.9 - Driver 3.4 WinXP

    or if you want you can share your experiences with USB3 and if you had problems .

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    ASUS Intel1.5 NEC-USB3.0 monitor W7,64bit ASIO TP2/KS4 - works a treat.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JonathanBlake View Post
    ASUS Intel1.5 NEC-USB3.0 monitor W7,64bit ASIO TP2/KS4 - works a treat.
    which drivers are you using please?

    I have FW 3028 and driver version 2.1.19 win7x64 which i'm told is the very latest.

    TIA
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    Quote Originally Posted by JSM View Post
    which drivers are you using please?

    I have FW 3028 and driver version 2.1.19 win7x64 which i'm told is the very latest.

    TIA
    Audio or USB driver?
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    thats the FW and driver of the USB3 host, you may have a little utility that allows you to turn off the powersave, it shows the FW and driver ... it does on mine anyway !
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    SL1210Mk5 x 2 Numark TTX x2 DJM-T1 DDM4000 MIDI Mixer Numark 4TRAK neoD+ cables
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    Had problems with USB3 too, until I upgraded the drivers. Just go to dell.com and download the renesas drivers, worked a treat on my L501X!
    Dell XPS 15 1080p -|- Kontrol X1 -|- Kontrol F1 -|- Akai LPD8 -|- Audio 6 -|- Traktor Scratch Pro 2.5 -|- 2 * Reloop RP-4000 M3Ds

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    @stephanV - I have the latest from Dell, and even more upto date ones direct from Renesas ... weird that yours works and mine doesn't (which is the same laptop more or less).

    I've tried using Dells own windows build, a custom build, new partition, separate drive. No matter what i try i can't get the audio working, or midi signals to respond correctly, the other 2 USB2 ports are fine, and USB3 in the port runs okay too.

    It's just anthing that relies on realtime streaming won't work, it works okay with mac osx10.6.6 though, but i am not going to use a hackintosh for live gig work.

    I consider myself somewhere of a PC/Laptop expert, being tech support for most of my working life, however this one has me pulling out what hair is left.

    I'll take on board anything useful anyone has to offer ..

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    SL1210Mk5 x 2 Numark TTX x2 DJM-T1 DDM4000 MIDI Mixer Numark 4TRAK neoD+ cables
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    bump.... as i still don't have working audio streams ...
    XPS L701x i7 16GbRAM 2x 500Gb SSD RAID HD (Windows 7 Ultimate x64) 1 x 1Tb 7200 int.
    TSP 2.6.1 Audio 8 Audio 4 4 x Denon SC-2000 2 x DX2 EMU shortboard MIDI_FIGHTER_PRO_PLUS
    SL1210Mk5 x 2 Numark TTX x2 DJM-T1 DDM4000 MIDI Mixer Numark 4TRAK neoD+ cables
    8000+ 45's & 2500+ 12's 2 x Traktor Kontrol S4 X1 & F1

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    What version number are your Renesas drivers? Mine are 2.0.34, you can download them here: http://support.dell.com/support/down...&fileid=449089
    See if these work?
    Dell XPS 15 1080p -|- Kontrol X1 -|- Kontrol F1 -|- Akai LPD8 -|- Audio 6 -|- Traktor Scratch Pro 2.5 -|- 2 * Reloop RP-4000 M3Ds

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    Even with Renesas 2.0.34.0 I can't get my audio 2 DJ to work with the USB3.0 ports on my new Dell XPS 15z laptop.

    Driver nightmares all round so far. So annoying that it takes months for manufacturers to get their drivers up to date!

    Any help really appreciated.

    Thanks

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