Beat Juggling

[amidoinitrite]

= triggering samples via cue points?

discuss

[DigitalDevil]

Yes, in the same way that placing warp markers is the equivalent of beatmatching.

[amidoinitrite]

Thanks for the reply!
yeah.. thats what I was thinking.

The reason I ask is because I wasn't sure what the common view on it was.
I've never seen a routine like that be called beat juggling before.

I'm not saying it is or it isn't.. it just sparked my curiosity and I wanted to get other's view points!

[greatmesk]

beat juggling = DMC like
cue juggling = Ean like

my 2 €cent, keep discussing

[amidoinitrite]

cue juggling.. I like that!!

[photojojo]

So the term beat juggling will die when the vinyl guys die? It can never be used for anything else? No one's allowed to say it ever again?

The above is not necessarily my opinion, just adding a little accelerant to the flame.

[sobi]

So the term beat juggling will die when the vinyl guys die? It can never be used for anything else? No one's allowed to say it ever again?

The above is not necessarily my opinion, just adding a little accelerant to the flame.

While I see your point, we're essentially comparing chess (vinyl beat juggling) to tic-tac-toe (cue point juggling). The skill of pushing cue buttons in time ≠ the skill of turntablism juggling.

[amidoinitrite]

safe..

I think if you were to use two decks you could beat juggle digitally..
but triggering samples from a single deck doesn't really seem like beat juggling..
..not that I can't see where its coming from!

[photojojo]

While I see your point, we're essentially comparing chess (vinyl beat juggling) to tic-tac-toe (cue point juggling). The skill of pushing cue buttons in time ≠ the skill of turntablism juggling.

I think comparing cue juggling to tic-tac-toe is a disservice. From the outside it might look as easy as tic tac toe, but coming up with a good routine is not. the biggest difference in the cue juggling and beat juggling is the ease in which it is to repeat the routine. With vinyl you're starting from scratch, but with cues it's all preset.

What about setting cues on the fly with no pre planning mid set and then performing a short routine? Is that more difficult than performing a rehearsed beat juggling routine?

[sidetrakd]

What about setting cues on the fly with no pre planning mid set and then performing a short routine? Is that more difficult than performing a rehearsed beat juggling routine?

You would probably stick to a rehearsed pattern but with different sounds so there's no reason for it to work out with on the fly sounds