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    Hi,

    I mix with Serato Itch (and 2 numark V7), but I soon gonna change my hardware for CDJ, and I won't use any software, I never watch the screen (except to match the BPMs).

    I have difficulties in making good transitions when a song has an intro w/o "kicks", I mean, boring to indentify the first beat, some time the first beat starts as soon as the first note, sometime not, so I'm forced in helping myself with the beat grid.

    Would some one know how to help with this?

    Thanx.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DeejayAlex View Post
    Hi,

    I mix with Serato Itch (and 2 numark V7), but I soon gonna change my hardware for CDJ, and I won't use any software, I never watch the screen (except to match the BPMs).

    I have difficulties in making good transitions when a song has an intro w/o "kicks", I mean, boring to indentify the first beat, some time the first beat starts as soon as the first note, sometime not, so I'm forced in helping myself with the beat grid.

    Would some one know how to help with this?

    Thanx.
    Not to be rude but...

    Use your ears and learn how to do harmonic mixing.

    You boast about not looking at the screen except when matching the BPM. So you're one of those "virtual DJ" guys who rely on visual beat matching rather than the conventional and traditional proper way of mixing music using ears.
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    There are MANY ways to skin a cat.

    Loops?

    FX at the end of the playing track....enabling an transition....

    Many ways bro......

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    Quote Originally Posted by sarasin View Post
    There are MANY ways to skin a cat.

    Loops?
    This!

    It's the best way to turn a short song into a long one IMO. Looping the intro/outro can turn a 60 sec song into a 3-4min song.

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    Love a good loop. Just gotta time it right, get counting.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DeejayAlex View Post
    Hi,

    ... so I'm forced in helping myself with the beat grid.
    Dunno what that means...

    If I have a song with a beatless intro I loop part of the outro beats and then flick it to the 1st cuepoint when the other track ends/breaks down etc


    When you start playing on cd's you will either have to:

    a: Get some skill, and that takes practice, not a bpm counter.

    b: Re-edit the tracks in your DAW of choice, then you can stick with your bpm counter and lack of skill.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nicadraus View Post
    Not to be rude but...

    Use your ears and learn how to do harmonic mixing.

    You boast about not looking at the screen except when matching the BPM. So you're one of those "virtual DJ" guys who rely on visual beat matching rather than the conventional and traditional proper way of mixing music using ears.
    You didn't understand what I meaned, I was talking about looking at the BPM displayed in Serato, not the wave form, to beat match I use cue.
    There are MANY ways to skin a cat.

    Loops?

    FX at the end of the playing track....enabling an transition....

    Many ways bro......

    Be Creative!
    I thought of this, kind of making a loop (around 8-16 beats) that starts where I wanna make the transition, then deplace it so it ends where I wanna make the transition ?


    I wanna add something, seems you guys are angry about using bpm counter (ok, no one wants his DJ to be looking at the screen of his laptop during the whole party), but bpm counter is really helpfull for most of DJs, allows to have more time to do something more creative than switching from A to B.

    And most of the songs I'm talking about are beatless outros too, I'm talking about hiphop, dancehall, reggaeton, bachata, merengue songs, far different from house or other electronic music with 5 sec of acapella every 3 minutes.
    When I can have some instrumentals, I create extended intro songs.
    Last edited by DeejayAlex; 11-16-2011 at 01:51 AM.

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    if you have no beat at the start. do what we used to do with vinyl and put the needle down further in the track to allow yourself to beat match. having no beat at the start then makes no difference if you've properly beat matched.
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    Stop just mixing intros, makes your mix boring do always do one technique. Just move along to the body of the song and mix the meat into the meat using EQs to prevent clashing and jumps in volume.

    (lol "I never watch the screen (except to match the BPMs).") :P
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    Quote Originally Posted by MrPopinjay View Post
    Stop just mixing intros, makes your mix boring do always do one technique. Just move along to the body of the song and mix the meat into the meat using EQs to prevent clashing and jumps in volume.

    (lol "I never watch the screen (except to match the BPMs).") :P
    by this sentence i meaned "setting bpms so they are the same".

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