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    Quote Originally Posted by KS2 View Post
    Hmmm can see what you mean about the pic, but the buttons seemed to have been changed and aren't rubber on some models. The pitch is a knob and not a fader, don't really know if that's an issue or not?

    I think the deciding factor is going to be if I can get the DX for cheaper than an S2. I can get the DX for 250 on Gumtree but the guys in Dundee and doesn't want to use Paypal. Anyone willing to take payment via Paypal and post it if they're in that area?! (Long shot)
    Also, whered u see new buttons? I dont think theyd create 2 versions.. U sure its the dx and not the 3d or some other model u saw with different buttons? I know 3d had little plastic hard buttons..

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    The buttons are plastic. The pitch control is an encoder because the decks are layered. It's easier to manipulate pitch across the layered decks without having to worry about where a pitch fader is. At least I assume that's the logic. It's not an issue if you aren't a traditionalist that must have a fader for pitch control. It makes moving in hundreths of a bpm extremely easy as well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kevz718 View Post
    Also, whered u see new buttons? I dont think theyd create 2 versions.. U sure its the dx and not the 3d or some other model u saw with different buttons? I know 3d had little plastic hard buttons..
    Have a look on the A&H site, the buttons are different to the one shown in the pic on the link
    Google images throws up the two different styles as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KS2 View Post
    Have a look on the A&H site, the buttons are different to the one shown in the pic on the link
    Google images throws up the two different styles as well.
    Not seeing a difference.. But then again, its like playing wheres waldo trying to spot button differences lol.. I do see the play and cue buttons appear a different color on the ah site images (silverish color) but that could just be photography or fact that the unit isnt powered on.. Were those the buttons u meant?

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    I picked up a new DX for a mate a few weeks ago for around $599 which was a total steal IMHO, it is for all intensive purposes a 4ch Allen and Heath mixer with a midi controller bolted on.

    The buttons were the hard silver plastic variety (I would have preferred rubber TBH) ...its got a 10x10 sound card, so you could use it with various DVS systems, deckadance / torq / Mixxx / Mixvibes

    The pitch control per deck is a rotary encoder, personally I prefer a fader, but on a controller I would just hit sync normally anyhow.

    Itch is a super piece of software and integration is really tight but I actually think that Traktor layout favors the DX better than Itch, If it were me I'd remap the pitch to key.

    There are pro's and cons to each .. the build and soundcard certainly favors the DX, but if you like jogs the S2..... hell. how many 10x10 sound cards can you pick up for $600, never mind an A&H one.

    The original 1299 price tag most certainly put most people off buying one in the first place, there's no way A&H were going to compete in the Sub 1k all-in-one controller market, much the same as BMW don't compete with Suzuki in the compact car market - you'll notice the ones being sold @ $599 are all marked as "refurb" I have my doubts, probably they just don't want to be seen to sell at a low price as they end-of-life the DX.

    For the current price of a DX is ALOT of bang for buck in the Audio Dept but it completely depends on your workflow and requirements.

    If it were me, I'd consider the DX as my "master controller" and possibly add on a 2 of the behringer PL1's or maybe even Denon's if I needed touch jog functionality in the future.

    There is "something" about A&H ... but the S2 is a solid lil controller and does come with a full version of Traktor, if you didn't need the ins/outs might be ideal.

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    I swear we had this exact same thread within the last month... Actually maybe it was S4 vs. Xone DX, but about 90% of the points made in that thread hold true. The summarized version is that the DX has shitty jog wheels, has an A&H soundcard but is not actually an external mixer so the sound quality gain is not that significant, the S2 is high res and intended for Traktor. For this particular comparison, the fact that the S2 is cheaper AND comes with TP2 makes this a no brainer, IMO, aside from the fact that the DX is 4 channel. Still, most DJs sure as hell don't actually utilize all 4 channels, so that's a bit of a dubious benefit.
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    We did have this conversation last month. But as is customary on DJTT and I presume all other forums, topic redundancy is commonplace.

    The jogwheels aren't 'shitty'. They just aren't touch sensitive. For what they were intended for, they are perfectly adequate. They can scrub, seek, and pitch bend, just like any other jog wheel.
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    OP, if you are going to spend your time in Traktor, consider the S2 more than the DX. DJTTs deal is a damn good one.
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    Quote Originally Posted by geminimech View Post
    We did have this conversation last month. But as is customary on DJTT and I presume all other forums, topic redundancy is commonplace.

    The jogwheels aren't 'shitty'. They just aren't touch sensitive. For what they were intended for, they are perfectly adequate. They can scrub, seek, and pitch bend, just like any other jog wheel.
    I say they're shitty because they're not very big and they're not high resolution. I haven't actually used the DX, to be fair, but having used an S4 and a VCI-100 (even with the 1.4 firmware) the difference a high-res jogwheel makes is substantial enough to warrant the "shitty" remark. The DX style jogs are better than not having jogs at all, but they're not in the same league as the S4/S2 jogs. I'll put it this way - I wouldn't want to attempt to beatmatch on a DX, whereas beatmatching on the S4 was pretty equivalent to a CDJ just with a smaller pitch fader. Which brings up another point - no pitch fader on the DX.

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    Hmm.

    Agree to disagree. Seeing as how 'beatmatching' in a traditional sense doesn't really occur in software as it's more of a phase match, anything that can nudge pitch at all should be more than ample. I can assure you, phase matching two tracks with these jog wheels is no more difficult than my DDJ-T1, or an S4 that I've used, or a VCI-100 that I had a chance to get very intimate with. Also, being that the encoders allow you to manipulate BPM's by the 100th, matching numbers is, well...

    I'm not following why a pitch fader is so important other than to maintain the traditional tactile feel. If anything a rotary encoder allows for more refined control of BPM's. I think the problem is that we vary on our definitions of beatmatching. I'm thinking of having a nearly useless BPM aid on a cd player and riding a pitch fader and jog wheel to keep tracks in time. I don't consider quantized tracks, matched to their exact bpm's and nudged together beatmatching. I would agree that if these were on a cd-player, I would have a problem, but as they are on a midi controller I don't really have one with them. Do I wish that they were touch sensitive? Yeah, but I don't think it's a must have for me as I don't scratch with it.
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