Best needles for DVS and Vinyl?
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    Default Best needles for DVS and Vinyl?

    I play both traktor timecode and music on vinyl whats the best needles? Just mixing & I spin House

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    Most people here will recommend the Shure m44-7 as the best all round needles for DJ'ing, personally I prefer concorde style carts but thats purely for aesthetics. Since they are only used for transport controls with DVS, the quality of the needle's is only really relevant when it comes to prone they are to skipping.

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    There is no difference between needles for vinyl and needles for DVS.


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    i just got a pair of Concorde Scratch's for my STR8-150s.. F-ING Beautiful!!! and from what i have noticed when in Absolute mode in TSP2, there is no jumping that i used to occasionally get with the standard Stanton 680 cartridge...

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    I use the Ortofon Concorde Elektro's, which I find are great for both vinyl and DVS.

    People have different preferences though, but I like the Concorde style myself as well. +the white looks damned sharp
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    When I was spinning vinyl, I always like Shure Whitelabels or Shure M-44gs. M-447s are good, but they're really high output and can clip some mixer inputs (or just run hot with the gains all the way down)…and they're a little bassy and almost muddy compared to the WHLB and 44g.

    If you don't want to spend that, the Shure SC35C are supposedly very close to the Whitelabels electronically (and the same styli) if you're cool with headshells an don't want to spend the money on WHLB styli, they sound awesome.

    I was never a fan of Ortofon, but I've also never seen an Ortofon Concorde that wasn't either on display in a store or broken. And their styli were more expensive the last time I was comparing prices……might not be the same now.

    FWIW, I'm using 447s now for normal vinyl and CV, and apart from them being really loud, I like them. Weight around 2.5g and they just don't skip.

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    Quote Originally Posted by djlotus View Post
    There is no difference between needles for vinyl and needles for DVS.
    Ehh their kinda is. DVS you don't need to worry about sound quality/coloring, and can focus more on tracking and record wear.

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    You should always worry about those things. That's why certain manufacturers build their reputation. There are always stylus' with a higher overall gain.

    You shouldn't sacrifice quality because of the output signal of vinyl. The cartridge/needle debate doesn't need fuel for a fire which does not exist.

    Time code pressed on vinyl will effect your needles the EXACT same as choons pressed on vinyl.

    This isn't a vinyl VS controller debate and shouldn't be turned into one. If you want to pay an extra $50 per needle to get one "for" Serato, then you don't deserve your money.

    The way the time code sends signal to software has no more an impact on your needle or audio quality than regular audio signals do.

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    djlotus - I think what people are trying to say is that it doesn't matter that much if you overweight your carts when using a DVS, as you can just buy another TC vinyl when it wears out, whereas is you wear your 'real' vinyl out like that, it might not be available again.
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    Most people here (at least the ones that post often) use the shure 44-7s or Ortofons. I've got the shure white labels, and love them. I've been using the same needles for almost a year, and they sound just as good as if they were new. Supposedly they have exceptional tracking on timecode, but I haven't used anything other than old stanton scratch carts, so I can't really compare. Plus the whitelabels look so hype.
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