Bome's problem
Page 1 of 2 12 LastLast
Results 1 to 10 of 14

Thread: Bome's problem

  1. #1
    Retired DJTT Moderator DvlsAdvct's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2008
    Location
    New Jersey/NYC
    Posts
    4,854

    Default Bome's problem

    Hey guys

    So, I had a sit down with Joe from the Bome's team a few weeks ago, and more recently with Bento and my problem can't seem to be solved.

    I have completely mapped my VCI-100, including the reset commands and all, in Bome's. I have it broken up into sections. The always on includes the Master, Booth and preview controls, the master effects and the crossfader. I have each half of the VCI broken down, so I have Deck A and Deck B mapped in their own presets, including effect controls, and the looping sections. I then copied Deck A and Deck B and created Deck C and Deck D respectively, except all controls are set to send on channel 2 instead of channel 1.

    This is where things get really weird. I built the tks from scratch (that was fun) in Traktor for Decks A - D. I have the top white button and the bottom white button of the looping section set to switch presets from A to C and B to D respectively. When I checked the message monitor thing (that shows what commands are being sent, can't remember what it's called) it shows all messages being sent, instead of one or the other, as is MIDI-Ox.

    In Traktor, though, it's even weirder. I double checked all the channel assignments, A and B on ch1, C and D on ch2. When I hit play for A, though, nothing happens. When I hit play for C then both A and C play. The deck assignments (volume, gain, effects) are moving properly, though. It's just the transport commands (Play, Cue/Play, Cue/Pause). I don't have MIDI-Thru on in Bomes.

    Any idea what I can do?

    Also, is there some sort of MIDI to Hex guide so I can learn how this stuff works? It kinda goes over my head right now :-)
    It's the FAQ. Read it.

    My Mixes, Mashups and Rants

    Divided we stand
    United we fall

  2. #2
    Dr. Bento BentoSan's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2008
    Location
    Perth, Australia
    Posts
    6,383

    Default

    The hex is pretty easy Bomes has a built in Hex -> Dec calculator

    its layed out like

    XX YY VV

    XX = Channel Number
    YY = Controller Number
    VV = Velocity Value

    sooo

    90 5D 7F

    90(HEX) = 144(DEC) = Channel Number - in this case channel 1
    5D(HEX) = 93(DEC) = Controller Number - in this case the note is A6
    7F(HEX) = 127(DEC) = Velocity Value - how hard the note was pressed.

    Btw you should share your Bomes file.

  3. #3
    Retired DJTT Moderator DvlsAdvct's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2008
    Location
    New Jersey/NYC
    Posts
    4,854

    Default

    sharing requires me being home. sharing will commence when I am in said domicile
    It's the FAQ. Read it.

    My Mixes, Mashups and Rants

    Divided we stand
    United we fall

  4. #4
    Tech Guru Fatlimey's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2008
    Location
    Redmond, WA
    Posts
    1,169

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by DvlsAdvct View Post
    sharing will commence when I am in said domicile
    Spoken like a true law enforcement offi... Run! He's a NARC!

  5. #5
    Retired DJTT Moderator DvlsAdvct's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2008
    Location
    New Jersey/NYC
    Posts
    4,854

    Default

    whoa whoa whoa, everybody stay cool. I'm not a NARC. I'm only interesting in your MIDI. I'm a MARC
    It's the FAQ. Read it.

    My Mixes, Mashups and Rants

    Divided we stand
    United we fall

  6. #6
    DJTT Ninja Mod tekki's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2008
    Location
    Afterhour Ali's lap
    Posts
    11,351

    Default

    You'll probably have done this already, but at risk as sounding a "no-shit-sherlock":
    - Check the .tks file in notepad or something to check the syntaxes have been built properly.
    - Also can the Bomes file be viewed in an independent editor?

    Probably a tiny mistake that is too easily overlooked. (Could be, had it too many times in the past.. )
    RSTRCTD | twitter | facebook (RSTRCTD) facebook (LJ) | vimeo | pinterest | my studio | soundcloud (RSTRCTD)| soundcloud (LJ)
    -- CHECK our DEBUT (DEEP)HOUSE EP RELEASE ON BEATPORT "RSTRCTD - EXISTENCE" --

  7. #7
    Retired DJTT Moderator DvlsAdvct's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2008
    Location
    New Jersey/NYC
    Posts
    4,854

    Default

    it very well could be a tiny mistake.

    What syntaxes should I be looking at? This is all a bit over my head, I think.
    The bomes file is
    http://www.zshare.net/download/14946791c09051d8/
    the tks file is
    http://www.zshare.net/download/14946824f43c11e2/

    that should be it, I think. Lots of files
    Last edited by DvlsAdvct; 07-08-2008 at 06:33 PM.
    It's the FAQ. Read it.

    My Mixes, Mashups and Rants

    Divided we stand
    United we fall

  8. #8
    Tech Guru
    Join Date
    Mar 2008
    Location
    Seattle, WA
    Posts
    1,464

    Default

    its layed out like

    XX YY VV

    XX = Channel Number
    YY = Controller Number
    VV = Velocity Value
    In your example, you're KIND of right. But it's a little different than what you've outlined.

    The MIDI information as presented in BMT, MIDIOX, etc is in HEX and is in the form of 3 groups of 2 digits (except in the case of things like SYSEX, but I'll leave that alone for now). But the first pair together doesn't only designate the MIDI channel, but also the TYPE of data. Specifically, the first digit in that pair tells you what kind of data is it, and the second digit gives you the MIDI channel. So if the first pair is BA, then you know that it is controller data on channel 10. The second pair gives you data based on what kind of message it is. In the case of a note on or off, it would be the note number, and the third byte is velocity. But if the first byte tells you it's controller data, the second byte is giving you the controller sending the message, and the third byte gives you the value of that controller.

    It's all contextual.

  9. #9
    DJTT Ninja Mod tekki's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2008
    Location
    Afterhour Ali's lap
    Posts
    11,351

    Default

    I looked into the Bomes file, and as far as I could see, no problems there.

    Will check the tks when (domicile story... )
    RSTRCTD | twitter | facebook (RSTRCTD) facebook (LJ) | vimeo | pinterest | my studio | soundcloud (RSTRCTD)| soundcloud (LJ)
    -- CHECK our DEBUT (DEEP)HOUSE EP RELEASE ON BEATPORT "RSTRCTD - EXISTENCE" --

  10. #10
    Retired DJTT Moderator DvlsAdvct's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2008
    Location
    New Jersey/NYC
    Posts
    4,854

    Default

    it's all good. I'm just trying to figure out why this ain't workin :-)
    It's the FAQ. Read it.

    My Mixes, Mashups and Rants

    Divided we stand
    United we fall

Page 1 of 2 12 LastLast

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •