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    How do you vote?

    agree with you brine!

    People are so worried about what gear is mixer is best, what software is best, what computer you should use, what bag that will fit all your gear that you probably will change in 1 week cuz then you need to think about what gear you might think of buying so you can think of what bag you thought you needed.
    I have been there, but im happier now with less gear focus and more focus on the really important thing, music!

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    Quote Originally Posted by deevey View Post
    I Agree with just about everything, with the exception of buying full albums, I have a bazillion albums that I have bought over the past 20 odd years with perhaps 2 good tracks on them and the rest total garbage (and that have not improved with age), On Occasion I'll buy an album but I'd preview about 10 times before deciding to buy the entire thing if its worthwhile e.g. on iTunes 13 tracks out of 20 that I for 100% sure will play at some point in the future.

    If its a digital single release I would perhaps buy 2 versions of a track, one more chilled for earlier in the night and one stomper - definitely not the entire release.

    Also for me personally I think there's a little over-preparation going on with your track analysis, but everyone has their own methodology.



    Careful now: Creating a set is a term I feel too widely abused by many newcomers who seem to think that its programming the exact cue points and transitions they will perform exactly on the night as opposed to the selection of "records" they bring to a gig.

    I try to narrow the list down as far as I can e.g. 70/100 tracks and allow for building up/down if its 2 hour gig. All the best gigs I've played have been based on letting the atmosphere choose the tracks for me once thats done

    Yeah as far as track analysis goes, I went from not using Mixed in Key at all, to really letting it run on my collection. I am working on learning to just know by ear, and sometimes things just work, but it was a suggestion given to me here on the forums, and then really given weight when a couple of the local DJ's whom I know highly recommended it. That was the kicker for me to try it out, as I really like their sets and they recommended it.

    I've actually found the constrictions that it puts on my choices for tracks honestly helpful, because it narrows things down. And I just like to analyze things in Serato before anything else (makes loading times and such instant basically). With the 70/100 tracks for a 2 hour set, I probably do about double that. So I'll have 100+ for a one hour set lined up, and 200+ for a two hour set.

    With the additional restrictions I use by mixing in key, it actually limits a good deal on the selection of what you'd want to play next, and giving that a bigger (overall) selection improves that. I always go back through and make sure I have a good selection of tunes (with different energy levels) in each key. So instead of just going off a pile of 100 tunes I'd want to play at any given moment, I limit myself to about 20 or so for my next track selection.

    The big thing that keeps me in the Serato camp rather than the Traktor camp is that I can basically set these two things up after I buy music, and just walk away. I really do like Traktor, but the whole gridding thing keeps me away from it. I want to move away from the computer all-together with CDJ's at some point, but until then, Serato is treating me right. And this is Serato Scratch Live.

    I also agree that when I posted this, "creating a set" is exactly how you said; misunderstood. It's comes back to the top section of "don't overthink it" and when you are actually playing to a crowd, you'll totally adapt to what you want to do.

    It's nice having some "combo moves" if you will. I'd equate that to playing video games almost, mortal kombat in particular. You're always going to have tracks that you work with that work really well together. And you just use those combinations at your own discretion. It's something the more time you have behind the decks, the more of these little things you're going to have.

    Doing a turntablism or controllerist routine is like getting the instant kill combo in MK. It's pretty cool, but you do it all the time, and you are really going to piss off the people around. It's nice to have combo's that you like to pull off, no matter what your level or how fancy you want to make it.

    Great thoughts and such so far folks. Would love to hear how other people differ in their methodology as well!
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    Quote Originally Posted by spadenation View Post
    ya i try to get the album sometimes. but only if its got at leased 75 % of stuff i like. if its less than that its not worth it.

    but anyways. about using iTunes or other software to manage your music.... lets face it Traktors, Abletons or Seratos music browsing sucks.... bad i mean really bad.
    its a freakin pain in the ass to get all your cover art and song titles right in the DJ software. and forget about organizing them. i hate it. when you browse through your library cover art, organizations by genre, artists, albums, bpm, are all essential to make sense of your music library.

    So in my opinion, forget it why use The DJ softwares browser when you can just drag and drop from your regular music browser (such as iTunes) right into Traktors or Seratos decks?

    i just move the DJ software to the bottom of my screen and then share the rest with iTunes on the top. plain and simple.
    I'm not sure how well it works in Traktor, but in Serato iTunes integration works flawlessly. I just make all my playlists in iTunes and it loads up instantly in Serato. Don't even think twice about setting things up in this manner.
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    Quote Originally Posted by M.Beijer View Post
    How do you vote?
    look to the far right at the top of any page in this topic. For example the page i see starts out with POST #11
    to the right of that post 11 i see a VOTE drop down

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    Ah, there, thanks!

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    I'm not sure how well it works in Traktor, but in Serato iTunes integration works flawlessly. I just make all my playlists in iTunes and it loads up instantly in Serato. Don't even think twice about setting things up in this manner
    Itunes integration is tight in traktor as well

    itunes Coverflow though is a much MUCH nicer way to browse a playlist with though as opposed to the textual based built in browser - more "record box" like, it SHOULD have been a feature built into Traktor instead of the half hearted album art effort.

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    Ya like deevey was saying. Sure traktor and serato let you view your iTunes playlists and such. But this doesn't help as the actual graphical way of viewing them sucks when compared to iTunes and other softwares. I mean why is all the cover art half cropped and such? And then no cover flow or even browsing by album art? Dj software just has everything in list form. But I guess I just have a visual memory and this is how I remember stuff.

    Which is why I like actual records better. Easy song selection. Forget playlists. "Do it live"

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