MF Spectra "Lag" in Ableton??

[djmetalgear]

Hey,

Got my spectra mainly to use as a sample trigger in traktor.. but i decided to mess around with it in ableton.

I'm a bit new to ableton but know i about latency and what not... anyways, I've noticed somewhat of a "lag" when it comes to lets say the drum rack. Its not huge, but its just enough to throw me off if I'm doing 16ths/32nd rolls...

I don't think its software related.. I think it may have to do with the MF having legit actual arcade buttons that need to be pressed in order for something to be triggered. I love the iPad for this reason, since its touch sensitive, the trigger is immediate.

My question is, has anyone felt/noticed the same thing? (i produce trap/hiphop so snare 16ths/32nd are pretty standard/common in my production.)

I was thinkin of getting an MPD26.

Any input for production in ableton is appreciated... especially if you've tried both a MF and a drum pad of sorts.

[botstein]

Hey - I love pads and have tried many with drum racks.

I think you might be disappointed with an MPD - check out Maschine and QuNeo.
The more physical movement required, the lower the upper limit of the speed with which you could play. Different controllers handle the on/off MIDI messages for each of the buttons and pads differently.

[djmetalgear]

Hey - I love pads and have tried many with drum racks.

I think you might be disappointed with an MPD - check out Maschine and QuNeo.
The more physical movement required, the lower the upper limit of the speed with which you could play. Different controllers handle the on/off MIDI messages for each of the buttons and pads differently.

sorry im a bit confused with what you mean by 'movement'.

do you mean actual movement of the button being pressed (button vs pad)?

[botstein]

sorry im a bit confused with what you mean by 'movement'.

do you mean actual movement of the button being pressed (button vs pad)?

Yeah. It's just the same as fader taps - they can be faster if the fader only has to move a millimeter or two than if the fader has to move 5 cm for the sound to cut in.

[djmetalgear]

Yeah. It's just the same as fader taps - they can be faster if the fader only has to move a millimeter or two than if the fader has to move 5 cm for the sound to cut in.

thanks. so the maschine is ur recommendation? i dont really wanna shell out 500.. i heard the Korg KontrolPad has some sensitive pads, any experience with that?

[botstein]

thanks. so the maschine is ur recommendation? i dont really wanna shell out 500.. i heard the Korg KontrolPad has some sensitive pads, any experience with that?

Yes, I recommend Maschine. No, I don't recommend the Korg - definitely not the same pads. What about QuNeo? They can be had for $199.

[djmetalgear]

Yes, I recommend Maschine. No, I don't recommend the Korg - definitely not the same pads. What about QuNeo? They can be had for $199.

i remember reading a review that the QuNeo had 'gooey' pads, kinda like the launchpad... if u say different, ill tryand check it out next time im at a guitar center

[botstein]

i remember reading a review that the QuNeo had 'gooey' pads, kinda like the launchpad... if u say different, ill tryand check it out next time im at a guitar center

I don't think so - it's quite different from the launchpad. QuNeo's pads each have velocity, x/y, and poly aftertouch - the launchpad's don't have any of those things. I like the feel a lot.

I also pmed you.