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    When you guys beatmatch do u guys use 1 or 2?

    1. Headphone mix : 50% (Cue vs Master) and both ears listening to headphones

    2. Headphone mix : 100% (Cue) on 1 ear using headphones, other ear on live monitors/ speakers

    I'm on IEMs right now, and i find method 1 to be more accurate to hear whether my track is going off beat.


    How bout for bringing in the track? Do you go

    3. Headphone mix 100% (Master) with both ears on headphones or

    4. Not use headphones at all and just listen to the house speakers

    I'm sure theres no proper way but just wanted to get some opinions. Feel i've been using iems and 50% headphone cue too much (1 and 3), and am personally too used to it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jester View Post
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    appreciate your reply jester (: glad to hear sum1 uses 50/50 too

    did u ever try method 2?

    i've been trying and its quite disappointing that it isnt as on point as when i use 1. haha

    how bout for bringing in the track?
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    50/50 for beatmatching (usually 70/30 in the non playing tracks favour), and use the monitors to bring the track in, whilst checking in headphones now and again to make sure mix is good.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tornesoul View Post
    appreciate your reply jester (: glad to hear sum1 uses 50/50 too

    did u ever try method 2?

    i've been trying and its quite disappointing that it isnt as on point as when i use 1. haha

    how bout for bringing in the track?
    Full cue for getting the levels bang on, then back to 50/50 for the mix in. I mix 100% in the headphones at home.
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    Default Thanks for posting this...

    I had similar questions about the bringing in the mix. Does anyone just look at levels and waveform to beatmatch without using headphones?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tornesoul View Post
    When you guys beatmatch do u guys use 1 or 2?

    1. Headphone mix : 50% (Cue vs Master) and both ears listening to headphones

    2. Headphone mix : 100% (Cue) on 1 ear using headphones, other ear on live monitors/ speakers

    I'm on IEMs right now, and i find method 1 to be more accurate to hear whether my track is going off beat.


    How bout for bringing in the track? Do you go

    3. Headphone mix 100% (Master) with both ears on headphones or

    4. Not use headphones at all and just listen to the house speakers

    I'm sure theres no proper way but just wanted to get some opinions. Feel i've been using iems and 50% headphone cue too much (1 and 3), and am personally too used to it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by joemanton View Post
    50/50 for beatmatching (usually 70/30 in the non playing tracks favour), and use the monitors to bring the track in, whilst checking in headphones now and again to make sure mix is good.
    Yep, this method for me also.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tornesoul View Post
    When you guys beatmatch do u guys use 1 or 2?

    1. Headphone mix : 50% (Cue vs Master) and both ears listening to headphones

    2. Headphone mix : 100% (Cue) on 1 ear using headphones, other ear on live monitors/ speakers

    I'm on IEMs right now, and i find method 1 to be more accurate to hear whether my track is going off beat.


    How bout for bringing in the track? Do you go

    3. Headphone mix 100% (Master) with both ears on headphones or

    4. Not use headphones at all and just listen to the house speakers

    I'm sure theres no proper way but just wanted to get some opinions. Feel i've been using iems and 50% headphone cue too much (1 and 3), and am personally too used to it.
    2 and 3 mostly

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    100% mix when getting the levels right, when beatmatching, usually say 80% but that varies a lot,
    my mixer has a crossfader to fade between channel 1/2 when cueing so i flick it a lot.

    same thing playing out, but generally i find that telling that stuff is not on time when having both tracks in the monitors as opposed to headphones

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    All in the headphones, mix of 1 and 3, with the occasional lifting of an earpad to check whether to compensate for the PA's EQ.
    On my ex behringer mixer, the cue/master is the most worn out - it is the main knob I look for when facing an unknown mixer for the first time (or whatever buttons make up for it, think DJM 300 and the like. Yuck).

    Cue/master preview for beatmatching and adjusting the eq before bringing it in. Once that's started, I jump betwen cue/master and just the master - I need it to ride the pitch.

    At home, I just can't turn the speakers up too much, and the habits developed by defaulting to the headphones have served me well so far, because it turns out you can't depend on a monitor a lot of the time.

    At gigs, it may be too far or facing the wrong direction because the house limiter/main PA is so full of shit/turned down you can only use the monitor to push music to the room. Or maybe there just isn't one and all you have is the room's more or less messy/delayed/muffled sound to go by.

    You can't always have a usable monitor, but you should always have headphones. Of course if you end up on a mixer with a fucked up cue section, you're screwed. But so is anyone.

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