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    Quote Originally Posted by Frank112916 View Post
    I don't see what the big deal is... Life is one big business decision and having "Artistic Integrity" is a business decision too. If not having artistic integrity is good for business then you should go that route, otherwise, stick with your integrity if you feel you will make a living that way. This is like the old sync/no sync debate. It doesn't matter how you get to where you do, as long as the crowd enjoys what you are doing. If the crowd likes the track you pass off as your own, then why not? Everyone wins. You win, the crowd wins, the producers of the track win, and everyone is happy. In the long term, the big winners are probably the crowd, and the producers, while you get the shaft because you can't find anymore hit tracks to buy and don't have any other marketable skills.

    If you're really good at selecting tracks, and marketing them in a way that will gain you lots of fans, that surely is a skill though. It could be parlayed into cultivating the talent you see in others. You could bring up small-time producers who have great tracks and managing them or back them with money. Everything has a negative side, but you should try and see the positive aspect of it. Maybe there IS a specific sound you want for your sets, but you don't want to play the same track BignameDJX is playing. So you go out, buy a tune for 500 bucks, play that, and call it yours. Whatever. Like I said, there is always lessons to be learned and valuable insights and skills you can gain from any experience. Sure, a lot of people won't take that high road or see the potential in what they are doing, but those people probably won't make it very far, and even if they do, who cares?

    I think this is a case of envy. If someone buys a track and makes it big, but you sit in your room for days and can't make a hit or get a lot of fans from your track, you feel as though you've been cheated, when maybe you just suck at producing, or marketing, or whatever it may be that's not earning you a fan base and should find another path to success? Not saying that you definitely do suck at these things, but have you ever been introspective about this anger you harbor towards these websites?

    Everyone has strengths and weaknesses, always play to your strengths while attempting to identify and correct your weaknesses. Never use your weakness as an excuse and never blame others for your inability to achieve a goal you have. There are many paths to the same goal and some are more difficult than others, but some are only difficult because you're the one putting up roadblocks on the path that would play more to your strengths. There is a difference between taking the easy way out and taking the smartest most efficient path. My whole point is that buying a track and playing to your marketing skills is not necessarily the EASY way out, it may just be the smartest for SOME people. However it may turn out to be a poor business decision in the long run if the people who take this route fail to correct their deficiencies at some point, or fail to identify a way to take their current success and diversify it into new ventures and opportunities.
    I wanted to read your entire post but after a few lines I realised you don't 'get' it at all - and if you find this acceptable it says something about as a person and the sort of character, musically and within life, that you are.

    There are lines with all aspects of life, and this to me is one step too far.

    Thankfully, a quick check on the site shows there is no music available yet - but when there is I look forward to hearing your 'new' single.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Mighty FV View Post
    I wanted to read your entire post but after a few lines I realised you don't 'get' it at all - and if you find this acceptable it says something about as a person and the sort of character, musically and within life, that you are.

    There are lines with all aspects of life, and this to me is one step too far.

    Thankfully, a quick check on the site shows there is no music available yet - but when there is I look forward to hearing your 'new' single.
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    Someone linked this in the dubfire mixing thread a week or so ago and there was a tech house track available, some big name probably already bought it up and its forthcoming on beatport.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Frank112916 View Post
    I don't see what the big deal is... Life is one big business decision and having "Artistic Integrity" is a business decision too....
    Worst post ever, why would you encourage the corporatisation of the music scene.
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    Quote Originally Posted by synthet1c View Post
    Worst post ever, why would you encourage the corporatisation of the music scene.
    Because those who truly transcend the fads (see daft punk) will continue to be listened to while the mass produced corporate schlock they are selling will fade into distant memory.

    Everything works itself out and being concerned about people buying tracks is a waste of time and energy.

    I'm not encouraging "corporatisation (sic)" of the music scene. I just don't think it's really that big of a deal in the first place. Also everyone's knee jerk reaction is evidence that none of you "get it." If you really cared just about your own artistic expression and not being recognized or getting paid then this wouldn't bother you one bit because it's not as if by doing this someone is taking away your ability to create your own tracks or promote yourself.

    Btw I have no need to buy tracks and promote them. I have a full time day job which pays well. I just DJ for the fun of it. I guess you thought I was defending it because I want to use it. Like I said, I just don't care.
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    My issue is that selling tracks will stop creativity in production, a music psychologist and a business analyst will get together and find everything that the masses want in music on a psychological level and make everything the same to meet those specifications as it is a low risk investment. Look at pop and rap for examples, most of it sounds the same within their genres. And yes you can argue that the real music will always come through, but why do we need all the filler so someone can line their pockets capitalising on the newest fad?
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    Quote Originally Posted by synthet1c View Post
    My issue is that selling tracks will stop creativity in production, a music psychologist and a business analyst will get together and find everything that the masses want in music on a psychological level and make everything the same to meet those specifications as it is a low risk investment. Look at pop and rap for examples, most of it sounds the same within their genres. And yes you can argue that the real music will always come through, but why do we need all the filler so someone can line their pockets capitalising on the newest fad?
    Correct, but when did we ever care about the mainstream? Are a music psychologist and business analyst going to show up in your studio and only let you record what the masses want on psychological level? The point being this type of service exists and has for some time, it's just starting to get more out in the open now. It's not going to change the way I make music and it sound like it isn't going to change the way you make music, so who cares.

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    It is probably going to decrease the likelihood of anyone hearing your music though if they have to wade through crap. And I just like that the music scene is a passionate bunch of people. The more idiots that put on phatties, fluffies and kandy the more saturated the scene becomes and it loses it's meaning just so someone can profit from it's exposure. That is the type of thing that Frank is promoting. I suck at producing so I don't do it, to buy a track and say that it's mine is just disgusting.
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