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    Default All midi controllers should have USB hubs!!

    Am getting quite tired of USB hubs. I find them annoying and they take a power outlet. I like how the Kontrol Z2 has a built in USB hub, though i still find two to be limiting, and the Xone K2 has the X Link port. I think all USB controllers should have a hub. Macbooks are so limited with just two hubs, so the audio interface takes one and the then everything else goes in a Hub. A FW interface would free up another USB port but its limiting.

    Manufacturers really need to address this, other than the all-in-one controllers like the S4, combinations of multiple controllers, which are more common among professionals it seems, all require quite a few USB ports.

    How do u guys manage ?

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    Linking controllers is fairly new tech (I think so anyways).

    Pretty much all the modular controllers coming out now have this feature.

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    hemmm my laptop has 4 usb hubs but im going to switch to a surface pro or something simaler soon so a powered usb hub is the way to go. get a good power strip for your gig bag and you should be able to plug in everything thing you own. i agree that more usbs on things would be nice but there is a issue of power, most of the modular products are usb powered and usb is only allowed so much draw per port so if you start chaining a bunch of stuff together you run out of power very fast. i think the way to do it is just make good non usb powered mixer that has extra usb ports on it (grabs mixer, usb hub and screwdriver) .

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    You don't actually NEED powered USB hubs for most devices, that's one of the biggest "DJ myths" around tbh.

    I can happily run 4 controllers (1x Reloop Contour IE, 1x Reloop Contour CE, 1x Kontrol F1 and 1x Korg nanoKONTROL) off a single, unpowered hub.

    It's rare that units without audio interfaces draw more than a couple of hundred miliamps each, and most USB ports can safely deliver 1-1.5A, because the official USB specification states that the MINIMUM a port should be able to provide is 500mA; in reality, most machines can provide significantly more than that.

    Best practice these days seems to be: audio interface/controller with audio interface into one port, everything else into an unpowered hub on the other port. Problem solved
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    Quote Originally Posted by mdcdesign View Post
    You don't actually NEED powered USB hubs for most devices, that's one of the biggest "DJ myths" around tbh.

    I can happily run 4 controllers (1x Reloop Contour IE, 1x Reloop Contour CE, 1x Kontrol F1 and 1x Korg nanoKONTROL) off a single, unpowered hub.

    It's rare that units without audio interfaces draw more than a couple of hundred miliamps each, and most USB ports can safely deliver 1-1.5A, because the official USB specification states that the MINIMUM a port should be able to provide is 500mA; in reality, most machines can provide significantly more than that.

    Best practice these days seems to be: audio interface/controller with audio interface into one port, everything else into an unpowered hub on the other port. Problem solved
    what hub are you using?
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    You need a powered hub for the MF3D
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    http://www.amazon.co.uk/Satechi-Prem.../dp/B007X6XJ98

    One of these; I didn't pay 29.99 for it though lol. You can get them on eBay for less sometimes
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    http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B005GLDAVE

    This hub works great for everything I've tried so far.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mdcdesign View Post
    You don't actually NEED powered USB hubs for most devices, that's one of the biggest "DJ myths" around tbh.

    I can happily run 4 controllers (1x Reloop Contour IE, 1x Reloop Contour CE, 1x Kontrol F1 and 1x Korg nanoKONTROL) off a single, unpowered hub.

    It's rare that units without audio interfaces draw more than a couple of hundred miliamps each, and most USB ports can safely deliver 1-1.5A, because the official USB specification states that the MINIMUM a port should be able to provide is 500mA; in reality, most machines can provide significantly more than that.

    Best practice these days seems to be: audio interface/controller with audio interface into one port, everything else into an unpowered hub on the other port. Problem solved
    I Disagree with you here.

    To avoid drops ...when playing in front of a 1000 plus people...you should use a powered hub.
    In a lil club...its no biggie.

    However, if you are doing a pro gig...to 1000's that have paid a big ticket price....dont muck around.
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