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    Default Bought a WAV track that is distorting, what can I do?

    I recently bought a track ('Bias - Just Mike") on Beatport, as WAV. When I used it on Ableton to make a podcast I saw that it distorted at the end of the intro (actually it sounds like a lame MP3 at this particular point).
    I never heard a 1411kbps/16bit WAV distort, like going further than 0db.
    Is that normal? Or the producer is simply a noob?
    What can I do to fix this track so I can play it on cubs? if it is actually possible

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    You can clip any type of file, WAVs included. Having a 16 bit depth means you have a maximum dynamic range of 96dB, whereas a 24 bit file has a maximum range of 144dB.

    Have you tried playing the file in another program in case your gain staging is off?

    Edit: Where exactly is your file clipping? The Youtube version sounds ok to me.
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    When I;ve had problems with Juno, I've simply emailed them and they have always given me a credit on the product I purchased.

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    Actually after you said to test on other software I tryed Adobe Audition and it seems its not going further than 0db.
    But it sounds bad at 0:59.
    Well, I think there is nothing I can do right? this guy simply did not pay too much attention on this particular point i guess
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    I would check it out with Beatport and try a re-downoad

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    Quote Originally Posted by Daniboy View Post
    Actually after you said to test on other software I tryed Adobe Audition and it seems its not going further than 0db.
    But it sounds bad at 0:59.
    No wonder it doesn't go further than 0 dB, since 0 dB (FS) is the absolute maximum level for digital signals. If a signal would go further than 0 db FS it gets cut off (-> clipping), leading to a square waveform. This is what you perceive at distortion.

    This should not happen in a file that's been properly mixed and mastered.

    Like the others said, just contact beatport and try to work something out.

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    Quite a bit of modern music is quite poorly mastered IMO, particularly with dance music. It's often mastered to be loud as feck which can affect the overall sound quality and occasionally make a tune sound like it's clipping. I wish we could go back to the pre-loudness wars era. I'm perfectly capable of turning the volume up if a song is too quiet.

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    listening to youtube version, it sounds alright, maybe it was just too squashed during the mastering

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    Quote Originally Posted by johney View Post
    listening to youtube version, it sounds alright, maybe it was just too squashed during the mastering
    Why should the youtube version have different mastering compared to the wave file sold on beatport?

    All digital copies of a track, no matter the format, will be made from the same source file.


    There's basically three possible reasons I can think of why the youtube version sounds better than the wave file:

    1. Someone applied further processing (post-mastering) to the beatport file, but why the hell should anyone do something that stupid?

    2. The beatport file somehow got corrupted, even though I can't imagine how corrupted data should affact the sound quality of the file like the OP described.

    3. Since youtube is streaming audio in 128 kbps mp3 format, the bad mastering job gets masked behind the artefacts of the low quality, compressed audio....

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    i meant, i heard what he may be interpreting as clipping (pad hitting at 1:02) but i think that's either to the master/mix or the pad itself is meant to be a bit distorted, everything else sounds clean

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