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    Default Traktor z2 or pioneer djm@@@ or s4?

    Hi all,

    I'm looking to improve my home setup. Currently I just use a midi controller (x1 and vcm100) and mix inside traktor but I'm looking to get something that feels a little bit better quality and maybe more like a traditional turntable and mixer set up. That said, I'm not really interested in having a dvs system as this is only something I do for fun at home, although in the future I might like to add a single turntable (for sampling and playback only). I have been considering the following:

    - traktor z2 (especially now it's on sale)
    I would use my x1 for transport etc. and I believe it can be used a standalone hardware mixer.

    - pioneer djm@@@ (or similar quality mixer)
    Not sure which but something with a built in sound card and midi mapping capabilities. The appeal here is just how solid these mixers feel (I had a traditional set up back in the day) and I guess the flexibility in the future.

    - s4
    These look great but I get a slight feeling that they're a bit 'toy' like and obviously it can't act as a standalone mixer for just turntable playback.

    I'd be interested in hearing everyone's opinions.

    Peace

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    What is your budget?

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    You won't get much of an upgrade in build quality from your VCM with any of NI's hardware.
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    Juntao: Budget is pretty flexible - $500-1000

    Makar1: That's what I'm worried about and why I'm considering the mixer route

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    Quote Originally Posted by makar1 View Post
    You won't get much of an upgrade in build quality from your VCM with any of NI's hardware.
    I have a Z2 and its absolutely bombproof. I couldn't support this mixer any more than I already do. If you like a modular type setup buy a Z2 and a second X1 and you have a very proven setup.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Calzone View Post
    I have a Z2 and its absolutely bombproof. I couldn't support this mixer any more than I already do. If you like a modular type setup buy a Z2 and a second X1 and you have a very proven setup.
    And now it's $200 off.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jdownesbaird View Post
    And now it's $200 off.
    This. I was actually lucky enough to find it for $599 CAD about a year ago. Right place at the right time I guess.

    Also there really isn't a better feeling than using a stand alone mixer. They just rock. For the price of a Traktor certified DJM mixer you could buy a Z2 and like $1100 worth of beer. (That's real math).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Calzone View Post
    and like $1100 worth of beer. (That's real math).
    I like your math. I'd take that any day.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Calzone View Post
    For the price of a Traktor certified DJM mixer you could buy a Z2 and like $1100 worth of beer. (That's real math).
    The DJM T1 is at most $100 more than the Z2. If you want a proper standalone mixer and go for an 850 at $1300, that's still only $700 more.
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    Even with a Z2 all the mixing is done inside Traktor, Its effectivly a controller with DVS capability. The DJM T1 mixes externally and has traktor certification along with very similar functionality to the Z2.
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