Stems

[mattsearles]

Err.. I don't think I can judge it till I see it...

I don't really get why people would be upset about it... I mean I just think it comes down to "is this a cool technology? Is this something that opens up new creative possibilities for me?"

Admitidly I'm very much interested in real time production and DJ-ing.. as a kind of spectrum... and I think this could potentailly add something to the table...

But you know.. devils in the details, so we'll see

[Notanon]

This is catering to the masses not to the so called "pros". The "pros" already have access to the stems which is how they make their remix in the first place. The isolated vocal aka "the acapella " is already out there for just about every other song. There are only going to be 4 stems, 1 being vocals, that leaves 3 others, doesn't really leave a lot considering how may individual tracks make up a song. I guess there will be an entire drum stem of all the drums together, a lead stem, a bass stem and vocals and then whatever they decide needs to be isolated like strings, or rhythm parts but with there only being 4 tracks available it can be limited. If you look hard enough the stems are out there already for a lot of stuff. I have used stems to do what I call a "rework" which is really just doing my own mix of the song only using the stems. There are a couple on my soundcloud. I don't think its anything I would ever use to DJ with, I don't use the remix decks either.

Nothing to really rule out an 8-stem format down the track, perhaps using the knobs on top of the D2 for the additional 4 volume controls for the extra stems in question, though it may not be really necessary or as popular compared to the 4-stem format being proposed. It will really depend on how well the initial Stems format itself goes in the first year or so. Also, given the open format approach of Stems itself, what's to stop Serato, Deckadance or another DJing software implementing a 8-stem version of Stems themselves?

[DigitalQw3rty]

I would rather have increased functionality in the remix decks as opposed to some "new". I'll admit this is prprobably a pretty creative and powerful feature. But it's definitely not for everyone.

[Sambo]

NI have updated their home page with a big bold advert for Stems: "A new DJ era", which is an almost Pioneer level of pretentious bullshit.

However, most interesting part was this:

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The F1 gets a specific mention, which means there's going to be a specific NI mapping for it. This is good news for F1 owners, but then begs the question:

What are the pads going to pad whilst the faders are fading?

[Notanon]

NI have updated their home page with a big bold advert for Stems: "A new DJ era", which is an almost Pioneer level of pretentious bullshit.

However, most interesting part was this:

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The F1 gets a specific mention, which means there's going to be a specific NI mapping for it. This is good news for F1 owners, but then begs the question:

What are the pads going to pad whilst the faders are fading?

My guess is individual cue points for each stem or some other sort of transport control.

[Stewe]

My guess is individual cue points for each stem or some other sort of transport control.

Or Mute On/Off for each individual stem.

[Deksel]

I don't think we're getting individual cue's or loop functions: the track plays as a whole, it's only the processing of the sound (volume, fx) of the different stems that can be played with, so yeah, i'm curious how they'll map the f1 too.anybody got any clever ideas about controllers that ll workbnicely with this? So far I've heard:
D2 (obviously)
F1 (as mentioned)
DJTT MF Twister (control volume of 4 stems* 4 decks with 16 encoders)
Reloop contour (has 4 obsolete faders just waiting for this)

Any additions?

[Sambo]

I don't think we're getting individual cue's or loop functions: the track plays as a whole, it's only the processing of the sound (volume, fx) of the different stems that can be played with, so yeah, i'm curious how they'll map the f1 too.anybody got any clever ideas about controllers that ll workbnicely with this? So far I've heard:
D2 (obviously)
F1 (as mentioned)
DJTT MF Twister (control volume of 4 stems* 4 decks with 16 encoders)
Reloop contour (has 4 obsolete faders just waiting for this)

Any additions?

Behringer CMD PL-1 has an abundance of buttons and encoders that would fit the bill

[Stewe]

Behringer CMD PL-1 has an abundance of buttons and encoders that would fit the bill

Also the CNTRL:R from Livid.

[Jester]

Any Stem demo tracks available to try chaps?