How to get echo tails on a mixer with no send-returns?

[electroshock]

Is it possible to get echo tails on a mixer with no send-returns in some scenario? What if I plug the fx unit between the cdj and a mixer channel, apply the effect and cut the input volume on the fx unit? Would it leave a tail? Units I have on mind are Korg kaoss pad quad, Pioneer rmx1000 and probably some pedals.

[electroshock]

Anyone?

[overcast]

I have a digital reverb pedal that I might be able to test this out with tomorrow/Sunday. The principle should be the same as a delay pedal, but maybe not nearly as strong.

The key thing you're probably going to be looking for is something that potentially has a "dry/wet mix" on it. Not having used either KAOSS or RMX-1000, those look to be more ideal. The "FX depth" might act as a mix type feature, with all the way to the right being 100% FX and 0% original input but I can't be sure of that. Lowering input volume might work as well, but I don't know if it'll let the existing effect dissipate.

[Mastah Kyler]

if it affects post mixer, it will affect pre mixer. meaning if the FX unit allows you to have echo tails, it doesnt matter where you put it

[electroshock]

if it affects post mixer, it will affect pre mixer. meaning if the FX unit allows you to have echo tails, it doesnt matter where you put it

If you put it post mixer you have the echo on the master i.e. both channels are affected. I need post fader kind of thing on each channel, so I could echo the outgoing track only, while keeping the incoming unaffected.

[electroshock]

The "FX depth" might act as a mix type feature, with all the way to the right being 100% FX and 0% original input but I can't be sure of that.

That way I'm turning the effect on and off but the track is still playing. I need to echo tail while ending the track.

[Mastah Kyler]

okay heres what you do, set a cue point at the end of every song, and just cue sample out while bringing the channel fader down without a send/return i dont see how this is possible without getting 2 fx units and running them pre mixer

[electroshock]

getting 2 fx units and running them pre mixer

Exactly my intention,only need to know if that works as expected.

[Mastah Kyler]

Exactly my intention,only need to know if that works as expected.

so the only thing you will NEED to do to achieve this effect with running fx PRE mixer, is that in order to echo out, you need to pause your deck while leaving the volume fader up. the sound will be affected reguardless of where you put the machine. think about it, if you play a song out of your cdj, don't you think you will hear the same sound out of your mixer?

[electroshock]

Yes, that's what I thought when started the thread. But when using a turntable you can't pause it like a cdj, so a volume control implementation on the fx unit is important and needs to be checked in real life.