# Ableton Failing With Bigger Set. **URL:** \ **Category:** Ableton\ **Created:** [March 19, 2012, 11:35pm UTC](https://forum.djtechtools.com/t/ableton-failing-with-bigger-set/39502 "2012-03-19T23:35:33Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 10\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![jedkleb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/d2c977/32.png) [@jedkleb](https://forum.djtechtools.com/u/jedkleb)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2012, 11:35pm UTC](https://forum.djtechtools.com/t/ableton-failing-with-bigger-set/39502/1 "2012-03-19T23:35:33Z")
**Ableton Failing With Bigger Set.** Hi - The more serious the music is getting, the slower Ableton is. My most recent set has 65 tracks, each with an individual plugin in and fx chain, and it will barely play. It glitches like no other. Suggestions? Jed ---
**Author:** ![lethal\_pizzle](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex001/user_avatar/forum.djtechtools.com/lethal_pizzle/32/11770_2.png) [@lethal\_pizzle](https://forum.djtechtools.com/u/lethal_pizzle)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2012, 11:36pm UTC](https://forum.djtechtools.com/t/ableton-failing-with-bigger-set/39502/2 "2012-03-19T23:36:50Z")
You’re running out of processing power. Flatten some tracks to audio. ---
**Author:** ![jedkleb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/d2c977/32.png) [@jedkleb](https://forum.djtechtools.com/u/jedkleb)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2012, 12:11am UTC](https://forum.djtechtools.com/t/ableton-failing-with-bigger-set/39502/3 "2012-03-20T00:11:24Z")
Can’t flatten them. The tracks are not finished. Is there any other way to solve this problem? ---
**Author:** ![Tilldawn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ce7236/32.png) [@Tilldawn](https://forum.djtechtools.com/u/Tilldawn)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2012, 1:06am UTC](https://forum.djtechtools.com/t/ableton-failing-with-bigger-set/39502/4 "2012-03-20T01:06:16Z")
FREEZE some tracks, if you want to change them after just UN-FREEZE them and do your modifications ---
**Author:** ![BentoSan](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex001/user_avatar/forum.djtechtools.com/bentosan/32/15028_2.png) [@BentoSan](https://forum.djtechtools.com/u/BentoSan)\ **Post date:** [March 24, 2012, 4:26am UTC](https://forum.djtechtools.com/t/ableton-failing-with-bigger-set/39502/5 "2012-03-24T04:26:16Z")
Could be one of two issues ! 1. your running out of ram because Ableton only currently supports a limited amount of RAM - not a hell of alot you can do about this other than loading and unloading tracks as you go through the live browser 2. your running out of CPU - put your effects nested inside of an inactive chain inside of a rack, when your ready to use the effects switch the chain selector over to this chain. Ableton wont consume CPU in a chain thats inactive (except for a small handfull of the native effects - like say beatrepeat). Tilldawn also made a good suggestion with the freezing and unfreezing of tracks. try to use combination of different approaches and see what works best for you 🙂 Best of luck ! ---
**Author:** ![tekki](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex001/user_avatar/forum.djtechtools.com/tekki/32/12829_2.png) [@tekki](https://forum.djtechtools.com/u/tekki)\ **Post date:** [March 24, 2012, 8:10am UTC](https://forum.djtechtools.com/t/ableton-failing-with-bigger-set/39502/6 "2012-03-24T08:10:06Z")
Freeze and unfreeze would have been my answer as well. ---
**Author:** ![BentoSan](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex001/user_avatar/forum.djtechtools.com/bentosan/32/15028_2.png) [@BentoSan](https://forum.djtechtools.com/u/BentoSan)\ **Post date:** [March 24, 2012, 8:38am UTC](https://forum.djtechtools.com/t/ableton-failing-with-bigger-set/39502/7 "2012-03-24T08:38:24Z")
Problem with Freezing is that if you want to tweak any of those effects in realtime (with knobs or even sidechaining) then you cant freeze anything past that effect. Thats why i recommend a mixture of freezing and use of rack chains. ---
**Author:** ![tekki](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex001/user_avatar/forum.djtechtools.com/tekki/32/12829_2.png) [@tekki](https://forum.djtechtools.com/u/tekki)\ **Post date:** [March 24, 2012, 8:58am UTC](https://forum.djtechtools.com/t/ableton-failing-with-bigger-set/39502/8 "2012-03-24T08:58:30Z")
I’m still not focussing on doing a live show. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Warwolt](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex001/user_avatar/forum.djtechtools.com/warwolt/32/14685_2.png) [@Warwolt](https://forum.djtechtools.com/u/Warwolt)\ **Post date:** [March 28, 2012, 5:38am UTC](https://forum.djtechtools.com/t/ableton-failing-with-bigger-set/39502/9 "2012-03-28T05:38:28Z")
Doesn’t have to be that, could be simply adjusting a filter with your mouse do see where it sounds best during a build-up, or something similair. Does “Collect all and save” help in this case? ---
**Author:** ![Mr\_Moo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex001/user_avatar/forum.djtechtools.com/mr_moo/32/14789_2.png) [@Mr\_Moo](https://forum.djtechtools.com/u/Mr_Moo)\ **Post date:** [March 30, 2012, 8:58am UTC](https://forum.djtechtools.com/t/ableton-failing-with-bigger-set/39502/10 "2012-03-30T08:58:05Z")
I have a script I found that someone made for optimising Windows for Traktor. Its temporary. You open it, optimise. If you want to revert again, open it, ‘revert’. I also use this on my partition for Ableton and I dont get any crashes at all now. It used to crash when I loaded up a saved file and then tried to open a vst. > **[Optimizing Windows for DJing – Part I (Power Script)](https://djtechtools.com/2011/08/14/optimizing-windows-for-djing-part-i-power-script/)** > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ey-YiiXpwoM What's it going to be? Mac or PC? One is the toast of the creative industry with each unit All the info is in there!