ableton intro vs traktor 2.5 for looping station with band
Ok, I have posted before about using traktor duo 2 or ableton for looping station and some responses were pro ableton. Understandable given that’s what Live is for.
However, with the upcoming traktor 2.5 with remix decks would it be doable and more flexible/fun to use that instead of ableton. Thanks in advance.
What loops are you going to use?
some of the songs we play, but mostly sample pack stuff and edits of other chill out songs
you will have 64 sample slots available in both live intro and traktor 2.5 but you will easily be able to load new sets of samples into a remix deck in traktor. i would def wait until 2.5 is out so we can really get a feel for how flexible it is.
i have a full version of live5 and the live8le that came with my launchpad. haven’t used live8le much - really seems like just a package to get a feel for live and then u buy the full version if u want it. but… if all u ever need is 8 banks of 8 samples then it would do fine and comes free with a launchpad. you’d want something like that to control it too.
edit: unless ableton “intro” is different to ableon “le” ?
Who knows? the software is not released yet. But think about it… everything is on the same screen with Traktor, everything is internally sync… no need to mess with anything else to route the audio etc etc.
HOWEVER, unless you only want to launch clips/loops in Ableton, you have more “features” and possibilities than within Traktor. (Warping (even if limited with Intro), Vst support etc etc).
I do have launchpad which I bought for what I wanted to do. It has Live intro of course and that is fine.
I also have a two deck Pyle PMIDI 100, which takes care of the basic functions in my Traktor duo 2.
I am debating whether to use launchpad and pmidi controller for Traktor 2.5, seems like a no brainer. Then use Ableton for offline edits and remixes. Thanks again.
certainly sounds like a no brainer to wait and see what 2.5 is like anyway given that it’s a free upgrade. u might want to upgrade to full ableton for offline edit/remix stuff or use some other software. LE seems pretty basic in that regard tho i haven’t used it loads.
It is an 8x8 grid, no complex warp mode. 12 effects and 12 vst. It seems to have enough for now.
cool - not bad at all then… being able to use vst’s in ableton is very handy. i’ve been using them with my old (but full version) of live5 quite a lot recently. i guess it was the max 8x8 grid thing that put me off, certainly limiting for live use anyway. there again it is basically free software with a launchpad so i shouldn’t grumble 
I have a Live 5 license (full) but it goes up to 86-96 percent with two plugins and 3 clips?
on my windows 7 machine. I have an amd turion 64 and 3gig ram. 1.9gig processor. SO I had to get Live intro 8. It only does 17percent max with a few tracks and plugins
ah ok odd… not sure of cpu levels, i’m running it on a macbook pro and never look at the cpu. before that tho i was running it on my old acer with win7, dual core 2.2ghz, 3gb ram and never noticed it eating up that much cpu. i run it sometimes under wine on linux and it does seem to eat up quite a lot of cpu - tho not tried it there with a bunch of plugins yet to see if it ends up going much higher or not. i kind if assumed that an older version would be easier on cpu than the latest live8 really… guess i was wrong 
Yes, it is weird . You would think a higher spec computer with a Live 5 would work. It doesn’t.
probably not a great test… but running the demo ‘tour through live’ live set with live5 on my macbook pro shows it’s running at about 92% idle overall. not the most complex of sets ofc, but doesn’t seem to eat too much cpu.
running the same set on my Acer (wine on linux) leaves about 25% idle tho only 65% idle before running the test as i have stuff eating cpu atm already… quite a diff tho - but this is also a much older laptop than my macbook - and has the windows emulation to deal with. tho oddly live5 here seems to eat up quite a lot even when not running anything…
Arent Turin older amd mobile chips? And 3 gb isn’t much in terms of ram for a win7 64bit machine I believe 2gb is the minimum. All my machines I har a minimum of 8 in them. I’d recommend switching back to xp pro with only 3gb and a 1.9 taurin that is fairly slow.
i know your comment was in reference to the OP but… my acer has always been fine on win7 and cant run xp anyway… and f*ck running vista not that i run windows anyway… i’ve always hated it. only dual boot into windows when i really have no other choice (i.e: certain website testing)
in fact before getting my macbook the only reason i used to run win7 so much was so i could run traktor. didn’t realise it ran under wine fine on linux
Really it runs in wine? And no I’m referring to his CPU maybe beig an older taurine since he call it a t 64 which I believe is a 5 year old CPU
YESS, 
that is precisely what happened to me.
traktor pro 2.03 run fine on my computer. Ableton runs at no more that 25% with plugins. Both are smooth on windows 7
yup! the soundcard in this laptop is shite so i’ve had to reduce the quality but traktor itself runs ok. i just wanted to be able to quickly run it sometimes to test settings in midimasher but i’m sure with a decent soundcard it should run fine.
ah ok sure - tho seems odd how much less cpu live8 uses apparently…
problem solved then running live8… i actually bought live5 2nd hand to upgrade to live8 but the upgrade price is still quite expensive, so currently learning live5 to see if i want to plunge deeper into the ableton hole or not. my other options i guess are bitwig, reason or maybe even logic for production. hopefully traktor 2.5 will have all the clip-launching goodness that i’ll need.