Ableton Live 8 and Ableton Live 8 Suite question.
I’m thinking of trying out producing, i have no experience in producing but before i drop 600.00 $$ on Ableton Live 8
Should i just spend the 200 dollars more on Ableton Live 8 Suite?
I don’t see any difference in the programs, maybe more effects?
I want to create a track like this, how long would it take? For a complete beginner…
https://soundcloud.com/ilan-cholo-fleischman/cholo-circle-of-life-full-set
Yes, you definitely should.
Suite comes with instruments, effects, and sound libraries.
I want to create a track like this, how long would it take? For a complete beginner…
http://soundcloud.com/ilan-cholo-fleischman/cholo-circle-of-life-full-set[/QUOTE]
First of all, that is a full set, not a track. It says so right in the title and the url.
To produce an hour and forty-five minutes of music would be a gigantic undertaking. With no producing experience, and no collaborators this would take an extraordinarily long time. For comparison, that set is about an hour longer than my upcoming album is. I’ve been working for about four months and not quite done.
It depends mostly on whether you think the instruments included in Live Suite are worth the price difference.
I’ve mixed feelings on the subject……I like Analog OK, but I like Dune better. I don’t like Operator. And I don’t like basically any of its other instruments compared to finding good samples or other synthesizers.
honestly, the only prepackaged things in ableton i use are the effects, analog, impulse, drum rack, and simpler/sampler. other than that all the rest of my work is through VST’s and sampling.
DJexlixer - that sounds like a lot. You even use Launchpad!
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lol ya the point was, get suite. its HELLA worth it
Ablteon Live 8 is 499.99
Ableton Live 8 Suite is 699.99
Trying to decide if good idea to buy it without any producing experience.
You can use a fully functional demo for 30 days before investing any money.
I’m with Padi on this one.
Try it out for 30 days for free first. You should try that, and try making a track (however shitty it may be) within those 30 days, and then try to find a Logic trial (I am not sure if those exists - and am too lazy too search right now), and try making a track in that in 30 days. Whichever you feel is easier and optimizes your work flow, i’d pick that. Hell not just Logic, i’d try Cubase / FL Studio as well. There is no one DAW better then the others, there are just people who work faster with different DAWs due to their comfort with the programs.
The DAWs do not make music, the users make music. No one DAW is better then the others. It’s a big investment, so try them all out and then decide.
Logic’s trial/LE would be Garageband
[QUOTE=Coldfuzion;461507\ Hell not just Logic, i’d try Cubase / FL Studio as well. There is no one DAW better then the others, [/QUOTE]
i didnt see reason or pro tools up there 
but ya no single daw is “better” than any other they just have different work flows. i enjoy ableton but try all you can and make sure to read up on the internet before you invest. no point in dropping a ton of money on something you hate
Alright I’ve been playing with trial version of ableton, making a track sure does take some time lol.
I’m learning Ableton right now, I’ve been working on a track for a few weeks now.
Nice at least you can save your work, i can’t with trial version, and i can’t record.
So it sucks lol.
Post your track when your done id like to listen.
It’ll probably take me a year or so to finish…
Agreed. Here’s a list of stuff that I know has a demo available…or is just free:
That’s all I can think of off the top of my head. They’re all worth trying (well…the ones available on your platform). Logic does not have a demo available unless it’s new. And while I own it, I’m not a huge fan. Every time I learn something new about it, I like it a little less. You might be completely different, and it’s not like I can’t use it…just a few things take me longer than I think they should.
I was really impressed with most of Reason when I managed to borrow a friend’s Ignition Key (another USB dongle) for a weekend……the only thing I don’t like about it is its sequencer……which is half the point.
And I really need to get around to actually using the Studio One demo for a while before I break down and buy Pro Tools 10…mostly because PT is still expensive. I just like it better for some reason.
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i didnt see reason or pro tools up there
[/quote]For some reason, people in the dance world always forget about them. They’re bigger in hip hop, and PT is bigger in, well, everything except dance music.
That’s the spirit!
No, seriously…my first bootleg took 24 years to finish. I’m really not kidding that your whole life leads up to whatever creative endeavor you’re currently working on. But…that’s probably well beyond the scope of this thread and might be nothing more than the sleep-deprived ramblings of a wannabe musician trapped in the body of a really unhappy coder.
I’ve been noodling since I borrowed a friends “borrowed” VCS3 back in the 70’s - BTW, that’s the synth Pink Floyd used to great effect on Dark Side of the Moon. I’m still yet to finish my first track worthy of release. But one day soon!
sounds like the story of my life 
was really into production when i was younger and then just never found the time outside of career/coding. didn’t realise u were a fellow coder geek. personally i love coding tho - but have left the whole career thing behind to just work freelance and hopefully find time in the near future to concentrate much more on music and dj’ing.
i’ve not used sonar but used to use cakewalk with my synths. i can’t decide what DAW to fork out for either. i bought my live5 cheap 2nd hand to try it out but not convinced it’s for me for producing. reason looks very interesting. also be interesting to see what bitwig will be like.
odd… just checked my user area on ableton.com and the upgrade to live8 is only 149eur and 319eur to live8suite. anyone know if this is some kind of offer or the regular upgrade prices? it mentions coming with some free soundcloud membership - but not sure if if the price is cheaper too.
so to the OP… buying a 2nd hand copy of live and upgrading may well save u some cash. licenses can be transferred so no issues there. i traded some scripts i had coded for my copy of live5 but u might find a cheap copy on ebay or something. that upgrade price is valid for any version of live from 1 to 6. much cheaper from 7 i guess.