# Additional Controller to add to S4 and Midifighter **URL:** \ **Category:** Traktor\ **Created:** [September 21, 2011, 3:09pm UTC](https://forum.djtechtools.com/t/additional-controller-to-add-to-s4-and-midifighter/30098 "2011-09-21T15:09:51Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 12\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![paulalexsaltis](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/eb9ed0/32.png) [@paulalexsaltis](https://forum.djtechtools.com/u/paulalexsaltis)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2011, 3:09pm UTC](https://forum.djtechtools.com/t/additional-controller-to-add-to-s4-and-midifighter/30098/1 "2011-09-21T15:09:51Z")
**Additional Controller to add to S4 and Midifighter** Hi Im looking for some advice, I already have an S4 and a midi fighter classic set to instant grat mode, but Im contemplating adding to my set up to control effects 3/4 and the sample decks. Im contemplating an X1 but was wondering if anyone could suggest alternatives… ---
**Author:** ![Yul](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex001/user_avatar/forum.djtechtools.com/yul/32/13542_2.png) [@Yul](https://forum.djtechtools.com/u/Yul)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2011, 8:04pm UTC](https://forum.djtechtools.com/t/additional-controller-to-add-to-s4-and-midifighter/30098/2 "2011-09-21T20:04:54Z")
Ipad with TouchOsc templates and X1. With the midi fighter, those are probably the best add-ons. ---
**Author:** ![paulalexsaltis](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/eb9ed0/32.png) [@paulalexsaltis](https://forum.djtechtools.com/u/paulalexsaltis)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2011, 7:17am UTC](https://forum.djtechtools.com/t/additional-controller-to-add-to-s4-and-midifighter/30098/3 "2011-09-22T07:17:19Z")
I just tried a new mapping which rendered my midi fighter redundant due to the use of 2 effects, must say I enjoyed mixing with it… the x1 would be useful for filters on the sample decks in this case 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![photojojo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex001/user_avatar/forum.djtechtools.com/photojojo/32/14618_2.png) [@photojojo](https://forum.djtechtools.com/u/photojojo)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2011, 11:58am UTC](https://forum.djtechtools.com/t/additional-controller-to-add-to-s4-and-midifighter/30098/4 "2011-09-22T11:58:21Z")
S4, MF and X1 are a fantastic combo!!! I used my X1 mainly for sample deck control and it worked out great. ---
**Author:** ![paulalexsaltis](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/eb9ed0/32.png) [@paulalexsaltis](https://forum.djtechtools.com/u/paulalexsaltis)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2011, 7:39pm UTC](https://forum.djtechtools.com/t/additional-controller-to-add-to-s4-and-midifighter/30098/5 "2011-09-22T19:39:02Z")
Does that free up the sample decks on the S4 to use as cue points… tbh Im more interested in controlling more fx units 😕 ---
**Author:** ![photojojo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex001/user_avatar/forum.djtechtools.com/photojojo/32/14618_2.png) [@photojojo](https://forum.djtechtools.com/u/photojojo)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2011, 8:49pm UTC](https://forum.djtechtools.com/t/additional-controller-to-add-to-s4-and-midifighter/30098/6 "2011-09-22T20:49:04Z")
> [@paulalexsaltis](#): > > Does that free up the sample decks on the S4 to use as cue points… tbh Im more interested in controlling more fx units 😕 It can if that’s how you choose to map the X1. ---
**Author:** ![DJ\_Axel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b38774/32.png) [@DJ\_Axel](https://forum.djtechtools.com/u/DJ_Axel)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2011, 2:13am UTC](https://forum.djtechtools.com/t/additional-controller-to-add-to-s4-and-midifighter/30098/7 "2011-09-28T02:13:13Z")
Have you thought about using a Korg Kaoss Pad?[http://www.korg.com/products.aspx?ct=95](http://www.korg.com/products.aspx?ct=95) I don’t have one, but am really interested in them. Anyone have any input about that? ---
**Author:** ![padi\_04](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex001/user_avatar/forum.djtechtools.com/padi_04/32/56291_2.png) [@padi\_04](https://forum.djtechtools.com/u/padi_04)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2011, 2:58am UTC](https://forum.djtechtools.com/t/additional-controller-to-add-to-s4-and-midifighter/30098/8 "2011-09-28T02:58:05Z")
Using a Kaoss Pad ain’t the best idea with the S4 since you are plugging it on the master out (unless you get an external soundcard). Get an X1 or a LPD8 ---
**Author:** ![DJ\_Axel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b38774/32.png) [@DJ\_Axel](https://forum.djtechtools.com/u/DJ_Axel)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2011, 11:11am UTC](https://forum.djtechtools.com/t/additional-controller-to-add-to-s4-and-midifighter/30098/9 "2011-09-28T11:11:31Z")
I’ve looked at the X1, but already have an S4, and feel I have enough kontrol (if you’ll excuse the pun..). And I do have an external DJ|io, so maybe that’d work, I’ll look into it. I just thought the Kaoss Pad’s looked neat and seemed to give more fx options. I also just discovered the MIDI Fighter, being a new member to DJTT. Might research that a bit. ---
**Author:** ![Argos](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/c77e96/32.png) [@Argos](https://forum.djtechtools.com/u/Argos)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2011, 3:01pm UTC](https://forum.djtechtools.com/t/additional-controller-to-add-to-s4-and-midifighter/30098/10 "2011-09-28T15:01:12Z")
MF Pro? 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![RobotNinja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex001/user_avatar/forum.djtechtools.com/robotninja/32/15079_2.png) [@RobotNinja](https://forum.djtechtools.com/u/RobotNinja)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2011, 12:40am UTC](https://forum.djtechtools.com/t/additional-controller-to-add-to-s4-and-midifighter/30098/11 "2011-10-01T00:40:01Z")
> [@Argos](#): > > MF Pro? 🙂 I second this, I have the x1/mf/s4 combo and to be honest I’m using the x1 less and less. It’s just overkill when it mimics what the s4 already does on it’s own perfectly. It is tuff to ween yourself off of it though when you’ve been using it longer than the s4. I would suggest a MF Pro, with the 4 preset buttons you can have 4 different templates for the MF Pro to control various effects/parameters. Have 1 template a beat slicer/masher, another pure sample/cue point banks, another whatever you want, ect… I think the s4/mf pro is the ultimate! ---
**Author:** ![JSM](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex001/user_avatar/forum.djtechtools.com/jsm/32/14170_2.png) [@JSM](https://forum.djtechtools.com/u/JSM)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2011, 9:56am UTC](https://forum.djtechtools.com/t/additional-controller-to-add-to-s4-and-midifighter/30098/12 "2011-10-01T09:56:15Z")
You could consider the Denon Sc-2000, like an X1 but with an amazing jog (better then the KS4 IMHO) - i have two of them and love them, in fact i prefer them to the S4 at times. Or the reloop controller edition, i haven’t used this one for very long (just a shop try-out), it’s very responsive. both devices are made from sheet steel, so they are very strong.