adjusting cc increment values

adjusting cc increment values

hi

  • does anyone know if,in pro, you can adjust the cc range for controllers

ie - im going to make some smart knobs today and i will probably want to be able to turn the knob on my controller but in a way that it will adjust the movements of the controls in pro at different increments -

so maybe i want knob 1 on pro to go all the way, knob 2 half way and knob 3 just perhaps 1/4 of the way

i know how to so this in ableton and i know i could also -use the dry/wet to get a similar result in a way but would like to know if it is possible to do it the other way

thanks

I don’t believe in Pro you can do that, but with certain controllers you might have a management tool (like Novation or M-Audio product with Enigma…but you’re on OSX, so like me, you’re screwed).

I have a 25SL as well…use the novation program and you can force your knobs to output certain parameters. Remember Pro only receives the midi cc’s, it can’t reprogram your controller to send different ones.

yah man

thanks for that …

put it on the pro wish list i guess

I’m not clear how, yet, but I know you can do this with Bomes. :slight_smile:

thanks

i ve downloaded bomes but never got round to using it

Yup, you can in Bomes as well.

Doubtful. How could NI possibly make that happen unless they virtualized the controllers, and then you programmed the virtualized entity? I dunno…still dodgy…I would bet that the companies that make the controllers would deem them to be unsupported in that type of scenario.

I do this in Bome’s. It’s great way to control multiple effects!

You nee the Pro version of Bomes though - the classic version wont do that

Its some simple maths really.

Using your example - “so maybe i want knob 1 on pro to go all the way, knob 2 half way and knob 3 just perhaps 1/4 of the way”

Translator 1:
Incomming: B0 1A pp
Outgoing B0 1A pp

Translator 2:
Incomming: B0 1A pp
Rules: qq = pp \ 2
Outgoing B1 1B qq

Translator 3:
Incomming: B0 1A pp
rukes: qq = pp / 4
Outgoing: B1 1C qq

This will let the original message go though and put the other two knobs onto channel 2 - by putting your translated code onto a serparate channel you dont have to worry about accidently making conflicting midi messages.

Mannnn, forget these new school controllers.

The BCR can do it on the fly, on the BCR itself.

No need for shitty workarounds by making use of Bome’s! :wink:

Id like to see your BCR do this :wink:

Incomming: B0 1A pp

Rules:
if pp < 64 Exit rules do not execute outgoing action
pp = pp - 64
qq = pp * 2

Outgoing: B0 1A qq

What this does : Makes a knob in the software turn up from 0 → 100% but only on the second half of the knob movement.

Ableton cant even do this actually.

A few translators written mapped to the one knob on the device is how a “smart knob” is created - the other method i described above i would call a “super knob”

Y’know, looking at this code now that I’ve done this… looks really easy.

It is really easy :slight_smile: Hope i helped some peeps out !

Well, if I [u]understand this pdf[/u] correctly… :wink:

any particular page number i should be reading ? i am really not in the mood to read though 14 pages of a manual for a device i dont own lol

Uhm search works in pdfs. :wink:

Multiple messages I guess.

But that doesnt say anything about that technique - all it says is that the bcr can output multiple messages from one knob - theres nothing there about having rules on those messages

Rule is, they listen to me! XD

LOLz… nah man, I told you, if I understood correctly.
Have to research it before taking it any further. :wink:

To be honest, I have never looked into the switching you’re talking about, never even had the ambition to try it, because I still have enough skills to hone.

But getting back on the ranging question, asked by buzby, the topic starter:

With a BCR you can!

The BCR can set a minimum and a maximum range to a knob.
So YES, it is possible, even without the aid of Bome’s!!!

And the translation you’re spitting Bento, was just not asked for. :wink:

lol yeah got a bit off topic there oops :stuck_out_tongue:

Atleast a good demonstration of the “next level” in these sorts of translations came out of it :slight_smile:

True that man, on both! But no probs. Always up for these kinda things. :smiley:

I first am going to remap the BCR to 4 decks shortly. Might see if I can conjure something up regarding your MIDI translation.
Would be cool to find out if it would be possible or not. :smiley: