# apc40 knobs... sensitive **URL:** \ **Category:** Controller Mappings\ **Created:** [May 1, 2011, 12:28am UTC](https://forum.djtechtools.com/t/apc40-knobs-sensitive/23635 "2011-05-01T00:28:56Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 11\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![shanefontane](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex001/user_avatar/forum.djtechtools.com/shanefontane/32/14085_2.png) [@shanefontane](https://forum.djtechtools.com/u/shanefontane)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2011, 12:28am UTC](https://forum.djtechtools.com/t/apc40-knobs-sensitive/23635/1 "2011-05-01T00:28:56Z")
**apc40 knobs… sensitive** i have my filters, gains set to my track control knobs… very fickle… some times i have to move knob a lot and traktor barely responds… sometimes little… any ideas why its so fickle? i tried knob and encoder… ---
**Author:** ![padi\_04](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex001/user_avatar/forum.djtechtools.com/padi_04/32/56291_2.png) [@padi\_04](https://forum.djtechtools.com/u/padi_04)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2011, 12:55am UTC](https://forum.djtechtools.com/t/apc40-knobs-sensitive/23635/2 "2011-05-01T00:55:44Z")
> [@shanefontane](#): > > i have my filters, gains set to my track control knobs… very fickle… some times i have to move knob a lot and traktor barely responds… sometimes little… any ideas why its so fickle? > > i tried knob and encoder… knob\>direct apc have endless 0-127 knobs, except the cue volume (only true encoder) ---
**Author:** ![shanefontane](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex001/user_avatar/forum.djtechtools.com/shanefontane/32/14085_2.png) [@shanefontane](https://forum.djtechtools.com/u/shanefontane)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2011, 1:04am UTC](https://forum.djtechtools.com/t/apc40-knobs-sensitive/23635/3 "2011-05-01T01:04:38Z")
> [@](#): > > knob\>direct > > apc have endless 0-127 knobs, except the cue volume (only true encoder) weird. i tried this too. works great when track is not playing. when track plays becomes fickle again. ---
**Author:** ![shanefontane](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex001/user_avatar/forum.djtechtools.com/shanefontane/32/14085_2.png) [@shanefontane](https://forum.djtechtools.com/u/shanefontane)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2011, 1:05am UTC](https://forum.djtechtools.com/t/apc40-knobs-sensitive/23635/4 "2011-05-01T01:05:19Z")
i have my led set to pan… this shouldnt be an issue though - right? ---
**Author:** ![shanefontane](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex001/user_avatar/forum.djtechtools.com/shanefontane/32/14085_2.png) [@shanefontane](https://forum.djtechtools.com/u/shanefontane)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2011, 1:07am UTC](https://forum.djtechtools.com/t/apc40-knobs-sensitive/23635/5 "2011-05-01T01:07:04Z")
hmmm… i notice the issue more when i try fine increments with the knob… i can spin the knob ever so slightly and the gain or filter kinda stay in place on traktor… ---
**Author:** ![padi\_04](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex001/user_avatar/forum.djtechtools.com/padi_04/32/56291_2.png) [@padi\_04](https://forum.djtechtools.com/u/padi_04)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2011, 1:10am UTC](https://forum.djtechtools.com/t/apc40-knobs-sensitive/23635/6 "2011-05-01T01:10:40Z")
Set the led to the CC# +8, otherwise they are fighting each other (slowing movement or making it act funny if latency is high enough). ---
**Author:** ![shanefontane](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex001/user_avatar/forum.djtechtools.com/shanefontane/32/14085_2.png) [@shanefontane](https://forum.djtechtools.com/u/shanefontane)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2011, 8:38pm UTC](https://forum.djtechtools.com/t/apc40-knobs-sensitive/23635/7 "2011-05-01T20:38:33Z")
> [@](#): > > Set the led to the CC# +8, otherwise they are fighting each other (slowing movement or making it act funny if latency is high enough). cool. thanks. ill try this. i thought i may have done this already but possible not. ---
**Author:** ![padi\_04](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex001/user_avatar/forum.djtechtools.com/padi_04/32/56291_2.png) [@padi\_04](https://forum.djtechtools.com/u/padi_04)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2011, 9:29pm UTC](https://forum.djtechtools.com/t/apc40-knobs-sensitive/23635/8 "2011-05-01T21:29:03Z")
> [@shanefontane](#): > > cool. thanks. ill try this. i thought i may have done this already but possible not. If they move slower they are on the same CC, as simple as that. It’s how the APC behaves natively 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![shanefontane](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex001/user_avatar/forum.djtechtools.com/shanefontane/32/14085_2.png) [@shanefontane](https://forum.djtechtools.com/u/shanefontane)\ **Post date:** [May 2, 2011, 5:28am UTC](https://forum.djtechtools.com/t/apc40-knobs-sensitive/23635/9 "2011-05-02T05:28:30Z")
yep. actually - i had both programmed… an out for the same cc and an out for the +8… bah… this def fixed the problem… ---
**Author:** ![joostiisme](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/b5ac83/32.png) [@joostiisme](https://forum.djtechtools.com/u/joostiisme)\ **Post date:** [May 4, 2011, 10:18am UTC](https://forum.djtechtools.com/t/apc40-knobs-sensitive/23635/10 "2011-05-04T10:18:39Z")
Sorry to steal your thread, but my question is about the LED rings too. I’ve got them working, took a while to figure out the +8 thing. But I’ve got two layers mapped on the same knobs. With a shift modifier. If I now move a knob in mod 1=0 the LED respond correctly, then when I press the modifier the LED’s on that layer have changed too. and visa versa. The LED are already assigned to mod=0 and mod=1 for the different functions. how can I change this? is there a way to make Can you give a quick guide to send monitor state? is it just add sed monitor state to alot of buttons in inverted state? ---
**Author:** ![padi\_04](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex001/user_avatar/forum.djtechtools.com/padi_04/32/56291_2.png) [@padi\_04](https://forum.djtechtools.com/u/padi_04)\ **Post date:** [May 4, 2011, 1:18pm UTC](https://forum.djtechtools.com/t/apc40-knobs-sensitive/23635/11 "2011-05-04T13:18:44Z")
> [@joostiisme](#): > > Sorry to steal your thread, but my question is about the LED rings too. > I’ve got them working, took a while to figure out the +8 thing. > But I’ve got two layers mapped on the same knobs. With a shift modifier. > If I now move a knob in mod 1=0 the LED respond correctly, then when I press the modifier the LED’s on that layer have changed too. and visa versa. > The LED are already assigned to mod=0 and mod=1 for the different functions. > how can I change this? is there a way to make > > Can you give a quick guide to send monitor state? is it just add sed monitor state to alot of buttons in inverted state? Just add an inverted send mon on the button that changes the modifier status.