# APC40 Mapping Madness (Midi Fighter Style on APC40) **URL:** \ **Category:** Controller Mappings\ **Tags:** apc40, mapping, midi-fighter\ **Created:** [July 5, 2010, 8:38pm UTC](https://forum.djtechtools.com/t/apc40-mapping-madness-midi-fighter-style-on-apc40/12328 "2010-07-05T20:38:08Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Timmio](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex001/user_avatar/forum.djtechtools.com/timmio/32/15279_2.png) [@Timmio](https://forum.djtechtools.com/u/Timmio)\ **Post date:** [August 2, 2010, 7:42am UTC](https://forum.djtechtools.com/t/apc40-mapping-madness-midi-fighter-style-on-apc40/12328/21 "2010-08-02T07:42:53Z")
> [@](#): > > .. > and i still cant figure out this sync problem šŸ˜ž Regarding the SYNC stuff, do you have the same blocks as in this screenshot: ![normaal-traktor](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex001/uploads/techtools/original/3X/6/c/6c9d06d544bea24b4eea111a624e90fb22c0145a.jpeg) (check out the top row with the FX units, but on the left there is a sync-block. In there you should choose INT(ernal) and then 100 bpm for example. Do you normally have problems with sync as well (without using the apc?) > [@](#): > > i still dont get > > ā†’ Delay (green buttons) > ā†’ Slicer (blue buttons) > ā†’ Beatmasher (red buttons) > > i get > > ā†’ mash (green buttons) > ā†’ Slicer (blue buttons) > ā†’ iceverb (red buttons) > > ā€¦ This is really the weird part. The filter-change is hard coded per button. So if you click on the blue/red/green buttons below the switch to the specific filter is hard coded and set to delay/slicer/masher. When Iā€™m at home Iā€™ll try to check the TSI again and make a screenshot of the part where I set the filters in my TSI, maybe you can then, or already, check what your TSI says? Do you have all filters enabled in your preferences? ---
**Author:** ![TommyQuiet](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex001/user_avatar/forum.djtechtools.com/tommyquiet/32/12758_2.png) [@TommyQuiet](https://forum.djtechtools.com/u/TommyQuiet)\ **Post date:** [August 2, 2010, 12:29pm UTC](https://forum.djtechtools.com/t/apc40-mapping-madness-midi-fighter-style-on-apc40/12328/22 "2010-08-02T12:29:20Z")
Right sync probelm is now sorted noidea what it was as it was set to intr but changed it and switched it back and it now works and yeah all my filters are on ---
**Author:** ![Timmio](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex001/user_avatar/forum.djtechtools.com/timmio/32/15279_2.png) [@Timmio](https://forum.djtechtools.com/u/Timmio)\ **Post date:** [August 3, 2010, 8:04am UTC](https://forum.djtechtools.com/t/apc40-mapping-madness-midi-fighter-style-on-apc40/12328/23 "2010-08-03T08:04:35Z")
> [@](#): > > ā€¦ and yeah all my filters are on Hmm, thinking of what else this can be. The filters are hardcoded-selected in the mapping itself, so it can only be wrong in there. I still need to check the part where the filters are selected in the TSI, it goes OK in my Traktor.. Are you using the newest Traktor (sorry for the dumb questions šŸ™‚)? Where you able to check the TSI yourself (~select filter IN action?) ---
**Author:** ![TommyQuiet](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex001/user_avatar/forum.djtechtools.com/tommyquiet/32/12758_2.png) [@TommyQuiet](https://forum.djtechtools.com/u/TommyQuiet)\ **Post date:** [August 3, 2010, 2:51pm UTC](https://forum.djtechtools.com/t/apc40-mapping-madness-midi-fighter-style-on-apc40/12328/24 "2010-08-03T14:51:26Z")
i am useing 1.2.4 and whats filter in action? its a shame this part is not working for me cus this is pretty much the mapping i have been after for a while ---
**Author:** ![Timmio](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex001/user_avatar/forum.djtechtools.com/timmio/32/15279_2.png) [@Timmio](https://forum.djtechtools.com/u/Timmio)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2010, 11:39am UTC](https://forum.djtechtools.com/t/apc40-mapping-madness-midi-fighter-style-on-apc40/12328/25 "2010-08-04T11:39:26Z")
The version shouldnā€™t be a problem. ā€˜filter in actionā€™ =\> I meant, if you go to preferences and the the mapping of the APC. Check the in-command called ā€˜select filterā€™ and check a command which focusses on deck A or B. Then you should be able to check what filter the command sets the unit to. ---
**Author:** ![Timmio](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex001/user_avatar/forum.djtechtools.com/timmio/32/15279_2.png) [@Timmio](https://forum.djtechtools.com/u/Timmio)\ **Post date:** [August 8, 2010, 9:40am UTC](https://forum.djtechtools.com/t/apc40-mapping-madness-midi-fighter-style-on-apc40/12328/26 "2010-08-08T09:40:31Z")
@CassoIVchoon; someone else also notices me about the wrong filtering settings compared to my scheme I have drawn. Iā€™ll check this again, it is possibly a wrong setting at my side, not yours šŸ˜‰ ---
**Author:** ![TommyQuiet](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex001/user_avatar/forum.djtechtools.com/tommyquiet/32/12758_2.png) [@TommyQuiet](https://forum.djtechtools.com/u/TommyQuiet)\ **Post date:** [August 8, 2010, 3:55pm UTC](https://forum.djtechtools.com/t/apc40-mapping-madness-midi-fighter-style-on-apc40/12328/27 "2010-08-08T15:55:57Z")
> [@Timmio](#): > > @CassoIVchoon; someone else also notices me about the wrong filtering settings compared to my scheme I have drawn. > > Iā€™ll check this again, it is possibly a wrong setting at my side, not yours šŸ˜‰ ok cheers mate if u get it sorted like me know and thanks again for all your work as i say sweet mapping just this little problem needs sorted peace ---
**Author:** ![Timmio](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex001/user_avatar/forum.djtechtools.com/timmio/32/15279_2.png) [@Timmio](https://forum.djtechtools.com/u/Timmio)\ **Post date:** [August 9, 2010, 7:02pm UTC](https://forum.djtechtools.com/t/apc40-mapping-madness-midi-fighter-style-on-apc40/12328/28 "2010-08-09T19:02:17Z")
I think there is a difference between our APCā€™s and what notes they are sending. Iā€™ve read differences in this earlier, for example in this thread: [http://www.djtechtools.com/forum/showthread.php?t=5484](http://www.djtechtools.com/forum/showthread.php?t=5484) I think that various production ranges and/or countries may have ā€˜differentā€™ APCā€™s. So that means if note ā€˜Xā€™ is sending the FX3 in my setup, it might fire note ā€˜Zā€™ in your setup causing a whole different action to fire (like in this case FX4). Too bad that therefore sharing tsiā€™s is a bit hard. ---
**Author:** ![TommyQuiet](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex001/user_avatar/forum.djtechtools.com/tommyquiet/32/12758_2.png) [@TommyQuiet](https://forum.djtechtools.com/u/TommyQuiet)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2010, 12:22am UTC](https://forum.djtechtools.com/t/apc40-mapping-madness-midi-fighter-style-on-apc40/12328/29 "2010-08-10T00:22:55Z")
well that sucks i had a idea tho in the tsi could i not just edit it myself like where it says beatmaser on 3 of the comands could i not just change it to ā€œdelayā€ etcā€¦? i dont have my apc40 with me but will try it in the morning ---
**Author:** ![Timmio](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex001/user_avatar/forum.djtechtools.com/timmio/32/15279_2.png) [@Timmio](https://forum.djtechtools.com/u/Timmio)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2010, 11:48am UTC](https://forum.djtechtools.com/t/apc40-mapping-madness-midi-fighter-style-on-apc40/12328/30 "2010-08-10T11:48:33Z")
Yep, setting those filters yourself would be a good idea. It might be a bit hard, but hopefully my TSI example helps. ---
**Author:** ![oscarjmg](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex001/user_avatar/forum.djtechtools.com/oscarjmg/32/12986_2.png) [@oscarjmg](https://forum.djtechtools.com/u/oscarjmg)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2010, 6:57pm UTC](https://forum.djtechtools.com/t/apc40-mapping-madness-midi-fighter-style-on-apc40/12328/31 "2010-08-10T18:57:04Z")
**Complete Solution** Sorry guys i posted my thread on the wrong section of the forum. HereĀ“s a complete solution to APC40 Traktor Pro DjĀ“s But hereĀ“s a link: [APC40 Traktor Pro Red Mapping (a final solution)](http://www.djtechtools.com/forum/showthread.php?t=16803) Btw, thereĀ“s a new version coming that supports Midi Fighter Style, 4 Decks Beatjuggle mode. Enjoyā€¦ ---
**Author:** ![Timmio](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex001/user_avatar/forum.djtechtools.com/timmio/32/15279_2.png) [@Timmio](https://forum.djtechtools.com/u/Timmio)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2010, 8:06pm UTC](https://forum.djtechtools.com/t/apc40-mapping-madness-midi-fighter-style-on-apc40/12328/32 "2010-08-10T20:06:55Z")
> [@oscarjmg](#): > > Sorry guys i posted my thread on the wrong section of the forum. > > HereĀ“s a complete solution to APC40 Traktor Pro DjĀ“s > > But hereĀ“s a link: [APC40 Traktor Pro Red Mapping (a final solution)](http://www.djtechtools.com/forum/showthread.php?t=16803) > > Btw, thereĀ“s a new version coming that supports Midi Fighter Style, 4 Decks Beatjuggle mode. > > Enjoyā€¦ Why on earth are you posting this here? Did you read this thread at all??? I did present my TSI in here, providing 2 deck full sample, juggle, cueing, advanced fx and other stuffā€¦ Itā€™s like shouting that there is a shoe sale at your place in a competitorā€™s store šŸ˜ž.. šŸ˜ƒ ---
**Author:** ![TommyQuiet](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex001/user_avatar/forum.djtechtools.com/tommyquiet/32/12758_2.png) [@TommyQuiet](https://forum.djtechtools.com/u/TommyQuiet)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2010, 8:57pm UTC](https://forum.djtechtools.com/t/apc40-mapping-madness-midi-fighter-style-on-apc40/12328/33 "2010-08-10T20:57:36Z")
i really want this tsi to work but i just dont think it will šŸ˜ž i think its strange that apc sends out different midi just cus it was made somewhere else this is tsi is perfect i just cant use it cus of the efx problems, ---
**Author:** ![oscarjmg](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex001/user_avatar/forum.djtechtools.com/oscarjmg/32/12986_2.png) [@oscarjmg](https://forum.djtechtools.com/u/oscarjmg)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2010, 10:43pm UTC](https://forum.djtechtools.com/t/apc40-mapping-madness-midi-fighter-style-on-apc40/12328/34 "2010-08-10T22:43:59Z")
**It is not like u said** > [@Timmio](#): > > Why on earth are you posting this here? Did you read this thread at all??? > > I did present my TSI in here, providing 2 deck full sample, juggle, cueing, advanced fx and other stuffā€¦ > > Itā€™s like shouting that there is a shoe sale at your place in a competitorā€™s store šŸ˜ž.. > > šŸ˜ƒ Sorry mate it is not my intention to take down your work. I posted this here, because is almost the same topic, and i just want to help even i think we can benefit from the work of each other, maybe my mapping helps you to get yours even better or maybe not. Maybe it works as a base for other guy new mapping, i just want to share it and if you like it allright if you dont, well that is the magic of this community we are all here to share info. Im proud of showing my .tsi but i only managed to achieve what i did reading and learnig from others right here, then i learned what i needed to do new things or just do them my way. I hope you enjoy the layout, im at your service for anything you need. ---
**Author:** ![Timmio](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex001/user_avatar/forum.djtechtools.com/timmio/32/15279_2.png) [@Timmio](https://forum.djtechtools.com/u/Timmio)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2010, 9:43am UTC](https://forum.djtechtools.com/t/apc40-mapping-madness-midi-fighter-style-on-apc40/12328/35 "2010-08-16T09:43:55Z")
šŸ™‚ just joking! Thanks for sharing, no hard feelings. ---
**Author:** ![TommyQuiet](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex001/user_avatar/forum.djtechtools.com/tommyquiet/32/12758_2.png) [@TommyQuiet](https://forum.djtechtools.com/u/TommyQuiet)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2010, 9:52am UTC](https://forum.djtechtools.com/t/apc40-mapping-madness-midi-fighter-style-on-apc40/12328/36 "2010-08-16T09:52:57Z")
any closer to solveing the problem of the efx 3 and 4? all so did you get my pm about setting up eqs for me? ---
**Author:** ![Timmio](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex001/user_avatar/forum.djtechtools.com/timmio/32/15279_2.png) [@Timmio](https://forum.djtechtools.com/u/Timmio)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2010, 10:22am UTC](https://forum.djtechtools.com/t/apc40-mapping-madness-midi-fighter-style-on-apc40/12328/37 "2010-08-16T10:22:57Z")
@CassoIVchoon, yeah received your PM, sorry for not responding. Iā€™ve being quite busy with non music stuff. Iā€™ll continue with this map asap, and implement the EQ stuff as well. About the FX, I cannot solve it. The problem is that there are various APC40 controllers in the world which seem to send different notes, depending on production, country, setting (I donā€™t know actually). I already noticed 3 different notes-overviews for the APC. The problem is that the buttons below (red/green/blue) seem to different in note-midi signals per controller. Check some more information here Iā€™m not sure on how to solve this. Maybe Iā€™ll make a slightly other mapping in which you can set the effects more easily yourself. I didnā€™t make up my mind about a solution for this yet.. ---
**Author:** ![TommyQuiet](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex001/user_avatar/forum.djtechtools.com/tommyquiet/32/12758_2.png) [@TommyQuiet](https://forum.djtechtools.com/u/TommyQuiet)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2010, 10:51am UTC](https://forum.djtechtools.com/t/apc40-mapping-madness-midi-fighter-style-on-apc40/12328/38 "2010-08-16T10:51:04Z")
Ok mate no worries and thanks again for all the help you been a star still useing this mapping for traktor ---
**Author:** ![Timmio](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex001/user_avatar/forum.djtechtools.com/timmio/32/15279_2.png) [@Timmio](https://forum.djtechtools.com/u/Timmio)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2010, 8:51pm UTC](https://forum.djtechtools.com/t/apc40-mapping-madness-midi-fighter-style-on-apc40/12328/39 "2010-08-16T20:51:41Z")
Hey good news. A visitor on my site used my TSI and updated it with some new options and also the EQ. It is really a cool TSI and although Iā€™d prefer some options to be a bit different, it still a nice mapping! Check out the attached files from the mapping image and the TSI! Iā€™ll update the image and TSI according to some of my preferences and post some new one later! (thanks go to Steph who updated my image and TSI with some additional cool stuff!) ---
**Author:** ![completej](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex001/user_avatar/forum.djtechtools.com/completej/32/12502_2.png) [@completej](https://forum.djtechtools.com/u/completej)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2010, 1:47am UTC](https://forum.djtechtools.com/t/apc40-mapping-madness-midi-fighter-style-on-apc40/12328/40 "2010-08-17T01:47:37Z")
not sure what im doing wrong, butā€¦ i start from a fresh boot turn on apc40 load ableton 8.1.3, get red box, and quit all the lights on the apc go out i load traktor 1.2.4 no lights appear on apc, all buttons unresponsive iā€™ve tried with both stephā€™s tsi and your most recent tsi with no luck. however, if i load in my old custom apc mapping, lights appear and the controller is responsive. iā€™ve completely wiped all controller bindings (including keyboard) and tried both methods to ā€œimportā€ the tsis. any ideas? i really dig your layout and was finding mine a bit restrictive as of late. thanks, [Previous page](https://forum.djtechtools.com/t/apc40-mapping-madness-midi-fighter-style-on-apc40/12328.md?page=1) [Next page](https://forum.djtechtools.com/t/apc40-mapping-madness-midi-fighter-style-on-apc40/12328.md?page=3)