# attention unreleased producers!!

**URL:** <https://forum.djtechtools.com/t/attention-unreleased-producers/23686>\
**Category:** Mixes\
**Tags:** dubstep, breaks, dnb, unsigned, make-money-get-bitches\
**Created:** [May 2, 2011, 10:48am UTC](https://forum.djtechtools.com/t/attention-unreleased-producers/23686 "2011-05-02T10:48:16Z")\
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**Author:** ![BradCee](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex001/user_avatar/forum.djtechtools.com/bradcee/32/14017_2.png) [@BradCee](https://forum.djtechtools.com/u/BradCee)\
**Post date:** [May 2, 2011, 10:48am UTC](https://forum.djtechtools.com/t/attention-unreleased-producers/23686/1 "2011-05-02T10:48:16Z")

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**attention unreleased producers!!**

So i have had, what i think to be, a genius idea!

off the back of a conversation with another user on here i have decided to make use of my juno label management account to help out some of the guys/girls who haven’t been released yet.

i’m looking for 5 or 6 people with 1 or 2 tracks each to release on a low price compilation through my label on juno download (link in sig). was thinking doing it all as free releases, juno even recommend this from time to time, but figured the size of the compilation would be taking the piss, lol. Music wise i’m looking for dubstep, breaks or drum and bass. nothing with _blatant_ samples though  
tracks have to wav format, junos rules not mine, and will be converted to other formats at juno end - very handy.

**in terms of mastering** , would prefer if they can come pre mastered, but will do something to even out levels myself if it’s _really_ needed. if tracks can be mastered to around 6dB that would be great (standard for pressing to vinyl if i remember correctly, even though vinyl won’t be part of this, but i’ve always found that has a ‘fuller’ sound with mp3/wav).

The **overall idea** is based around promoting YOU and your tracks, gets your name out there and gets you on the juno database ready for releases later in life.  
_example; someone like syour track, clicks the button to keep informed of future releases, you have a release on a big name label and that person will be emailed and know about it regardless of any promo stuff._  
As a result there won’t be any upfront payouts on this release (info on that kind of thing towards the bottom of this post), but the backend royalties will be a higher percentage than normal

**pricing** wise i’m thinking 192 mp3; free / 320; 79p / wav; 99p - already checked and i can do this 😃

as an example, you’ll see about 22p per wav sale based on that and the following  
a breakdown on monetary distribution **by** juno to labels/artists (lifted from sales reporting page);  
99p track \> 84p sale value \> 38p to label \> 7p to artist as mechanical royalty  
pay outs every quarter to label if commission is greater than £50 for that quarter

mechs are distributed automatically if the label is registered, i am not. so the mechs go into the quarterly payouts, which i would distribute accordingly + a **40% cut of label comms** on each of your personal sales, approx 22p (total - 3 times normal mech rate) on a wav sale based on this structure, with 23p to label (almost 50/50 split). as i mentioned above this is to replace an upfront payment that you’d normally see from a larger label

i personally won’t have any releases on it, tbh got a bit bored of production atm and this feels like i’m not wasting my account on juno. but i will put together a promo dj mix (free 192 mp3 only) which will most likely go out the week before, and be part of the overall release.

**What will the label (ok, me) be doing with the money it’s made?** As i mentioned above there won’t be any upfront payouts to people based on the nature of this release. But if anyone (from this release) wants to become a regular artist then money from this would be used to organise something like that; upfront payout to buy track along with being sold on a more ‘standard’ pricing/royalty structure. essentially promo and fundraising for everyone involved.  
Plus i get paid for the stuff i’ve got to do 😉

If you’re interested/know anyone that might be, then drop a comment here, or pm me. Flamers will be met by my foot.

Ideally i’d like to have **tracks gathered within the next month** (by start of june), with release set for a month later (thinking 4th or 11th july), giving a month for promo bits to be done

**promo** will be handled through typical channels of today, soundcloud (via your own channel), twitter and facebook (again a joint effort as we mutually benefit from a 50/50 split). plus i’ll _try_ to get reviews in djmag/mixmag etc…

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**Author:** ![smashah](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/58f4c7/32.png) [@smashah](https://forum.djtechtools.com/u/smashah)\
**Post date:** [May 2, 2011, 10:55am UTC](https://forum.djtechtools.com/t/attention-unreleased-producers/23686/2 "2011-05-02T10:55:23Z")

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lol i like your tags, i’m thinking of compiling some mash-ups and offering them as a .zip free download. Will that be possible on your label?

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**Author:** ![josh\_firestorm](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex001/user_avatar/forum.djtechtools.com/josh_firestorm/32/11798_2.png) [@josh\_firestorm](https://forum.djtechtools.com/u/josh_firestorm)\
**Post date:** [May 2, 2011, 10:57am UTC](https://forum.djtechtools.com/t/attention-unreleased-producers/23686/3 "2011-05-02T10:57:43Z")

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sounds interesting brad… almost as interesting as your make money - get bitches tag!!

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**Author:** ![BradCee](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex001/user_avatar/forum.djtechtools.com/bradcee/32/14017_2.png) [@BradCee](https://forum.djtechtools.com/u/BradCee)\
**Post date:** [May 2, 2011, 10:58am UTC](https://forum.djtechtools.com/t/attention-unreleased-producers/23686/4 "2011-05-02T10:58:23Z")

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> [@smashah](#):
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> lol i like your tags, i’m thinking of compiling some mash-ups and offering them as a .zip free download. Will that be possible on your label?

ah, should’ve specified no samples as can’t be arsed with the headache of clearance or anal raping for not bothering, lol

tbh not sure how it would affect things if they were just free with no money made… but don’t really wanna take the risk with samples - way too many i can get screwed for already, sorry.

if you have any ‘original’ pieces though… 😉

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**Author:** ![BradCee](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex001/user_avatar/forum.djtechtools.com/bradcee/32/14017_2.png) [@BradCee](https://forum.djtechtools.com/u/BradCee)\
**Post date:** [May 2, 2011, 10:59am UTC](https://forum.djtechtools.com/t/attention-unreleased-producers/23686/5 "2011-05-02T10:59:09Z")

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> [@josh\_firestorm](#):
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> sounds interesting brad… almost as interesting as your make money - get bitches tag!!

wanted a 5th tag… _shrug_ lol

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**Author:** ![system](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex001/user_avatar/forum.djtechtools.com/system/32/11_2.png) [@system](https://forum.djtechtools.com/u/system)\
**Post date:** [May 2, 2011, 11:26am UTC](https://forum.djtechtools.com/t/attention-unreleased-producers/23686/6 "2011-05-02T11:26:54Z")

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this might be interesting for my forthcoming EP. I have sampled several movies and game voiceovers though, so in the end I suppose it’s gonna be a free release after all. you would have to define “blatant sampling”.

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**Author:** ![photojojo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex001/user_avatar/forum.djtechtools.com/photojojo/32/14618_2.png) [@photojojo](https://forum.djtechtools.com/u/photojojo)\
**Post date:** [May 2, 2011, 11:31am UTC](https://forum.djtechtools.com/t/attention-unreleased-producers/23686/7 "2011-05-02T11:31:05Z")

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Good idea Brad.

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**Author:** ![BradCee](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex001/user_avatar/forum.djtechtools.com/bradcee/32/14017_2.png) [@BradCee](https://forum.djtechtools.com/u/BradCee)\
**Post date:** [May 2, 2011, 11:44am UTC](https://forum.djtechtools.com/t/attention-unreleased-producers/23686/8 "2011-05-02T11:44:10Z")

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> [@](#):
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> this might be interesting for my forthcoming EP. I have sampled several movies and game voiceovers though, so in the end I suppose it’s gonna be a free release after all. you would have to define “blatant sampling”.

blatant sampling… hmmm… obvious samples from ‘big’ tracks i guess, sometimes movie stuff can less easy to spot…

to a degree it would be based on how the sample sounds. as an example; my dragonball track is heavily blatant… (and still one of my favorites)

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**Author:** ![BradCee](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex001/user_avatar/forum.djtechtools.com/bradcee/32/14017_2.png) [@BradCee](https://forum.djtechtools.com/u/BradCee)\
**Post date:** [May 2, 2011, 11:50am UTC](https://forum.djtechtools.com/t/attention-unreleased-producers/23686/9 "2011-05-02T11:50:36Z")

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> [@photojojo](#):
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> Good idea Brad.

i try 🕶

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**Author:** ![BradCee](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex001/user_avatar/forum.djtechtools.com/bradcee/32/14017_2.png) [@BradCee](https://forum.djtechtools.com/u/BradCee)\
**Post date:** [May 2, 2011, 12:04pm UTC](https://forum.djtechtools.com/t/attention-unreleased-producers/23686/10 "2011-05-02T12:04:18Z")

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some important edits have been done

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**Author:** ![photojojo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex001/user_avatar/forum.djtechtools.com/photojojo/32/14618_2.png) [@photojojo](https://forum.djtechtools.com/u/photojojo)\
**Post date:** [May 2, 2011, 12:13pm UTC](https://forum.djtechtools.com/t/attention-unreleased-producers/23686/11 "2011-05-02T12:13:51Z")

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How are you going to handle mastering?

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**Author:** ![BradCee](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex001/user_avatar/forum.djtechtools.com/bradcee/32/14017_2.png) [@BradCee](https://forum.djtechtools.com/u/BradCee)\
**Post date:** [May 2, 2011, 1:01pm UTC](https://forum.djtechtools.com/t/attention-unreleased-producers/23686/12 "2011-05-02T13:01:20Z")

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> [@photojojo](#):
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> How are you going to handle mastering?

shit, good point. and another thing i just noticed i left off… me and my ideas… lol 🙄

tracks have to wav format, junos rules not mine, and will be converted to other formats at juno end - very handy.

in terms of mastering, would prefer if they can come pre mastered, but will do something to even out levels myself if it’s _really_ needed. if tracks can be mastered to around 6dB (standard for pressing to vinyl if i remember correctly) that would be great.

i’ll add this to main post, thanks jojo 😉

and i’ll have another read to make sure i’ve got everything this time

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**Author:** ![djchriswoods.co.uk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/90ced4/32.png) [@djchriswoods.co.uk](https://forum.djtechtools.com/u/djchriswoods.co.uk)\
**Post date:** [May 2, 2011, 1:57pm UTC](https://forum.djtechtools.com/t/attention-unreleased-producers/23686/13 "2011-05-02T13:57:25Z")

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38p to label, 7p to artist, lol yeah cos there is so much work in uploading a few tracks…

sorry dude, i have my own label on there too, and theres really nothing to it.

plus if you take into account a best case scenario where a track makes the 2500 sales it takes to get into the UK top 40, the artist will only of made £175, vs the £950 by the label.

for the frankly shit percentage (poorest for any label i know of) i would like to think you/the label would be promoting the fuck out of the stuff these guys will give you 24 hours a day 7 days a week

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**Author:** ![smiTTTen](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex001/user_avatar/forum.djtechtools.com/smittten/32/12629_2.png) [@smiTTTen](https://forum.djtechtools.com/u/smiTTTen)\
**Post date:** [May 2, 2011, 2:04pm UTC](https://forum.djtechtools.com/t/attention-unreleased-producers/23686/14 "2011-05-02T14:04:33Z")

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I am going to link this post to guys on my board - see if there is any interest. We can also help with mastering if needed. I don’t think anyone is looking at this from a place of fiscal reliance - at least not on our side.

SmiTTTen

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**Author:** ![BradCee](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex001/user_avatar/forum.djtechtools.com/bradcee/32/14017_2.png) [@BradCee](https://forum.djtechtools.com/u/BradCee)\
**Post date:** [May 2, 2011, 2:10pm UTC](https://forum.djtechtools.com/t/attention-unreleased-producers/23686/15 "2011-05-02T14:10:37Z")

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> [@djchriswoods.co.uk](#):
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> 38p to label, 7p to artist, lol yeah cos there is so much work in uploading a few tracks…

breakdown was lifted from my sales reporting page, i suggest you look at yours in more detail 😉  
how any label splits the ‘38p’, is up to them. and yes majority may tend to hand out a bit more than just the mech, but not all do. plus you have to remember that usually there’s a payment to buy the rights to release/use the track before it’s even released to secure contracts etc… which is based on how well the label thinks the track will do. and where bigger artists would make most of the money.  
keep in mind here, i’m running on a tight budget **personally** at the best times, so while i’d love to throw money at people straight off the bat, i can’t which is why i’m loading the backend with 40% of the label takings.

_this_

> [@BradCee](#):
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> mechs are distributed automatically if the label is registered, i am not. so the mechs go into the quarterly payouts, which i would distribute accordingly + a 40% cut of label comms on each of your personal sales, approx 22p (total - 3 times normal mech rate) on a wav sale based on this structure, with 23p to label (almost 50/50 split). as i mentioned above this is to replace an upfront payment that you’d normally see from a larger label

_plus this_

> [@djchriswoods.co.uk](#):
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> plus if you take into account a best case scenario where a track makes the 2500 sales it takes to get into the UK top 40, the artist will only of made £175, vs the £950 by the label.

so actually that would be £550 to artist (per track if they have more than one)

and yeah no work to uploading, bit of time doing the upload and matching the tracks. but i’m also putting a mix together (takes time) and handling any mastering that may need doing (again more time) then the promo stuff (yet MORE time and possible money).  
saying that mastering may get passed on to someone else depending on extent i _may have_ to do, which while not costing my time, will cost me money. which has to be made up somewhere.

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**Author:** ![BradCee](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex001/user_avatar/forum.djtechtools.com/bradcee/32/14017_2.png) [@BradCee](https://forum.djtechtools.com/u/BradCee)\
**Post date:** [May 2, 2011, 2:27pm UTC](https://forum.djtechtools.com/t/attention-unreleased-producers/23686/16 "2011-05-02T14:27:44Z")

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> [@smiTTTen](#):
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> I am going to link this post to guys on my board - see if there is any interest. We can also help with mastering if needed. I don’t think anyone is looking at this from a place of fiscal reliance - at least not on our side.
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> SmiTTTen

cool, thanks for the support

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**Author:** ![Lambox](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex001/user_avatar/forum.djtechtools.com/lambox/32/12390_2.png) [@Lambox](https://forum.djtechtools.com/u/Lambox)\
**Post date:** [May 2, 2011, 4:30pm UTC](https://forum.djtechtools.com/t/attention-unreleased-producers/23686/17 "2011-05-02T16:30:52Z")

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Cool idea. I’ve actually been working on a 6-track EP that I’ve been intending to release in June or July. In other words, I definitely have some fresh tracks in the works I wouldn’t mind contributing if you’ve got the space still! 😃

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**Author:** ![BradCee](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex001/user_avatar/forum.djtechtools.com/bradcee/32/14017_2.png) [@BradCee](https://forum.djtechtools.com/u/BradCee)\
**Post date:** [May 2, 2011, 4:40pm UTC](https://forum.djtechtools.com/t/attention-unreleased-producers/23686/18 "2011-05-02T16:40:56Z")

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> [@Lambox](#):
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> Cool idea. I’ve actually been working on a 6-track EP that I’ve been intending to release in June or July. In other words, I definitely have some fresh tracks in the works I wouldn’t mind contributing if you’ve got the space still! 😃

not making any final decisions on tracks til end of this month, so all comers are welcome til then 😉  
Although, 6 tracks might constitute its own release :eek:

Hit me a pm with more info

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**Author:** ![Lambox](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex001/user_avatar/forum.djtechtools.com/lambox/32/12390_2.png) [@Lambox](https://forum.djtechtools.com/u/Lambox)\
**Post date:** [May 2, 2011, 4:44pm UTC](https://forum.djtechtools.com/t/attention-unreleased-producers/23686/19 "2011-05-02T16:44:10Z")

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> [@BradCee](#):
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> not making any final decisions on tracks til end of this month, so all comers are welcome til then 😉  
> Although, 6 tracks might constitute its own release :eek:
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> Hit me a pm with more info

Right well what I meant was I definitely have some material to pick from to contribute. 😛

Check your inbox!

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**Author:** ![BradCee](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex001/user_avatar/forum.djtechtools.com/bradcee/32/14017_2.png) [@BradCee](https://forum.djtechtools.com/u/BradCee)\
**Post date:** [May 2, 2011, 4:47pm UTC](https://forum.djtechtools.com/t/attention-unreleased-producers/23686/20 "2011-05-02T16:47:13Z")

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> [@Lambox](#):
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> Right well what I meant was I definitely have some material to pick from to contribute. 😛
> 
> Check your inbox!

makes more sense 😛

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