# Audio 10 - Xone 2D **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [July 8, 2012, 9:58am UTC](https://forum.djtechtools.com/t/audio-10-xone-2d/44335 "2012-07-08T09:58:43Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![WastedYouth](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex001/user_avatar/forum.djtechtools.com/wastedyouth/32/42_2.png) [@WastedYouth](https://forum.djtechtools.com/u/WastedYouth)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2012, 9:58am UTC](https://forum.djtechtools.com/t/audio-10-xone-2d/44335/1 "2012-07-08T09:58:43Z")
**Audio 10 - Xone 2D** Here I am again, almost figured everything out. I need something like the audio 10 to hook up my DDM4000 to traktor, but I don’t want to spend 500$ on some damn soundcard. I looked on the interwebs and found that the Xone 2D is also a 8channel soundcard. If I mix these two together, the DDM4000 hooked up to a Xone 2D, the Xone to traktor, would that do the same as an audio 10? Thanks in advance, you guys have already been a huge help for this noobie. WY ---
**Author:** ![MyUsername\_2](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex001/user_avatar/forum.djtechtools.com/myusername_2/32/14670_2.png) [@MyUsername\_2](https://forum.djtechtools.com/u/MyUsername_2)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2012, 12:26pm UTC](https://forum.djtechtools.com/t/audio-10-xone-2d/44335/2 "2012-07-08T12:26:44Z")
Xone 2D is NOT scratch certified. So no timecode with that. ---
**Author:** ![seitz](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex001/user_avatar/forum.djtechtools.com/seitz/32/5190_2.png) [@seitz](https://forum.djtechtools.com/u/seitz)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2012, 3:04pm UTC](https://forum.djtechtools.com/t/audio-10-xone-2d/44335/3 "2012-07-08T15:04:24Z")
why would a digital mixer not have usb x.x get something like [Amazon.com](http://www.amazon.com/M-Audio-Midisport-Uno-MIDI-Interface/dp/B00007JRBM/ref=sr_1_2?s=musical-instruments&ie=UTF8&qid=1341759883&sr=1-2) and just hook it up to your laptop? edit: you still need a soundcard…u could always get an audio 2 and run usb from your computer into the audio 2 into channels a/b on your mixer and use the above midi to usb to allow you to control traktor ---
**Author:** ![MrPopinjay](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex001/user_avatar/forum.djtechtools.com/mrpopinjay/32/14471_2.png) [@MrPopinjay](https://forum.djtechtools.com/u/MrPopinjay)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2012, 7:13pm UTC](https://forum.djtechtools.com/t/audio-10-xone-2d/44335/4 "2012-07-08T19:13:08Z")
2 x NI Audio 2 Then aggregate them into one soundcard using ASIO4ALL drivers on Windows or just core audio on a Mac. Viola- 4 stereo outputs! Other options include a second hand Audio 8 DJ (warning, may not work with USB 3.0) and the ESI Gigaport. There’s really not enough options for those wanting 4 stereo outputs, it sucks hard 😞 ---
**Author:** ![WastedYouth](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex001/user_avatar/forum.djtechtools.com/wastedyouth/32/42_2.png) [@WastedYouth](https://forum.djtechtools.com/u/WastedYouth)\ **Post date:** [July 9, 2012, 12:22am UTC](https://forum.djtechtools.com/t/audio-10-xone-2d/44335/5 "2012-07-09T00:22:38Z")
> [@myusername](#): > > Xone 2D is NOT scratch certified. > So no timecode with that. I don’t really mind timecode, I just want a soundcard that works with traktor 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![djmoonie](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex001/user_avatar/forum.djtechtools.com/djmoonie/32/13902_2.png) [@djmoonie](https://forum.djtechtools.com/u/djmoonie)\ **Post date:** [July 9, 2012, 8:46am UTC](https://forum.djtechtools.com/t/audio-10-xone-2d/44335/6 "2012-07-09T08:46:25Z")
xone 2d and DDM4000 will work just fine, I’ve used that setup before. You can mix externally on all 4 channels. You can also use either a usb to midi cable to use the midi functions of the DDM4000 or use a straight 5 pin midi cable routed through the 2d’s midi in/out, so you only need to use up one usb port. ---
**Author:** ![WastedYouth](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex001/user_avatar/forum.djtechtools.com/wastedyouth/32/42_2.png) [@WastedYouth](https://forum.djtechtools.com/u/WastedYouth)\ **Post date:** [July 9, 2012, 9:52am UTC](https://forum.djtechtools.com/t/audio-10-xone-2d/44335/7 "2012-07-09T09:52:01Z")
> [@djmoonie](#): > > xone 2d and DDM4000 will work just fine, I’ve used that setup before. > > You can mix externally on all 4 channels. > > You can also use either a usb to midi cable to use the midi functions of the DDM4000 or use a straight 5 pin midi cable routed through the 2d’s midi in/out, so you only need to use up one usb port. In that case the DDM4000 is just a midi controller and I can only prelisten with the Xone 2D? ---
**Author:** ![Cook](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex001/user_avatar/forum.djtechtools.com/cook/32/12480_2.png) [@Cook](https://forum.djtechtools.com/u/Cook)\ **Post date:** [July 9, 2012, 10:14am UTC](https://forum.djtechtools.com/t/audio-10-xone-2d/44335/8 "2012-07-09T10:14:57Z")
> [@WastedYouth](#): > > In that case the DDM4000 is just a midi controller and I can only prelisten with the Xone 2D? run the RCAs from the 2D into your ddm4k, then you have ‘pre-listen’ If your wanting to use the midi on your ddm as well as the 2D, run a midi cable out the ddm into the 2d, then connect the 2D to your laptop via usb. ---
**Author:** ![Cook](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex001/user_avatar/forum.djtechtools.com/cook/32/12480_2.png) [@Cook](https://forum.djtechtools.com/u/Cook)\ **Post date:** [July 9, 2012, 10:16am UTC](https://forum.djtechtools.com/t/audio-10-xone-2d/44335/9 "2012-07-09T10:16:38Z")
> [@MrPopinjay](#): > > 2 x NI Audio 2 > Then aggregate them into one soundcard using ASIO4ALL drivers on Windows or just core audio on a Mac. Viola- 4 stereo outputs! i never ever thought of that, going by the price of used kit, doing this way costs half of that of a audio 8DJ. ---
**Author:** ![WastedYouth](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex001/user_avatar/forum.djtechtools.com/wastedyouth/32/42_2.png) [@WastedYouth](https://forum.djtechtools.com/u/WastedYouth)\ **Post date:** [July 9, 2012, 11:43am UTC](https://forum.djtechtools.com/t/audio-10-xone-2d/44335/10 "2012-07-09T11:43:26Z")
> [@](#): > > run the RCAs from the 2D into your ddm4k, then you have ‘pre-listen’ > > If your wanting to use the midi on your ddm as well as the 2D, run a midi cable out the ddm into the 2d, then connect the 2D to your laptop via usb. Big big thanks man. ---
**Author:** ![MrPopinjay](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex001/user_avatar/forum.djtechtools.com/mrpopinjay/32/14471_2.png) [@MrPopinjay](https://forum.djtechtools.com/u/MrPopinjay)\ **Post date:** [July 9, 2012, 12:48pm UTC](https://forum.djtechtools.com/t/audio-10-xone-2d/44335/11 "2012-07-09T12:48:40Z")
> [@](#): > > i never ever thought of that, going by the price of used kit, doing this way costs half of that of a audio 8DJ. I think it’d pretty dumb that it’s the cheapest option. Someone really needs to full that gap in the market… ---
**Author:** ![djAB3](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex001/user_avatar/forum.djtechtools.com/djab3/32/12477_2.png) [@djAB3](https://forum.djtechtools.com/u/djAB3)\ **Post date:** [July 9, 2012, 1:30pm UTC](https://forum.djtechtools.com/t/audio-10-xone-2d/44335/12 "2012-07-09T13:30:18Z")
> [@MrPopinjay](#): > > 2 x NI Audio 2 > Then aggregate them into one soundcard using ASIO4ALL drivers on Windows or just core audio on a Mac. Viola- 4 stereo outputs! > > Other options include a second hand Audio 8 DJ (warning, may not work with USB 3.0) and the ESI Gigaport. > > There’s really not enough options for those wanting 4 stereo outputs, it sucks hard 😞 how can you aggregate them? ---
**Author:** ![MrPopinjay](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex001/user_avatar/forum.djtechtools.com/mrpopinjay/32/14471_2.png) [@MrPopinjay](https://forum.djtechtools.com/u/MrPopinjay)\ **Post date:** [July 9, 2012, 1:42pm UTC](https://forum.djtechtools.com/t/audio-10-xone-2d/44335/13 "2012-07-09T13:42:04Z")
I don’t know about Macs, sorry. Limited experience with them. With Windows install the ASIO4ALL driver, select that as your soundcard drive in your software, then open the ASIO4ALL preferences by clicking on the icon on the task bar, make sure both soundcards are selected in the window that pops up (probably want to disable your laptop’s internal one) and that’s it. Your software should see them both as one card now. With Linux and ALSA I’d probably try and write a .asoundrc file that sorta creates a dummy device with the ins and outs of both of them and stick it in your home directory but that’s beyond me. ---
**Author:** ![WastedYouth](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex001/user_avatar/forum.djtechtools.com/wastedyouth/32/42_2.png) [@WastedYouth](https://forum.djtechtools.com/u/WastedYouth)\ **Post date:** [July 9, 2012, 2:09pm UTC](https://forum.djtechtools.com/t/audio-10-xone-2d/44335/14 "2012-07-09T14:09:17Z")
> [@MrPopinjay](#): > > I don’t know about Macs, sorry. Limited experience with them. > > With Windows install the ASIO4ALL driver, select that as your soundcard drive in your software, then open the ASIO4ALL preferences by clicking on the icon on the task bar, make sure both soundcards are selected in the window that pops up (probably want to disable your laptop’s internal one) and that’s it. Your software should see them both as one card now. > > With Linux and ALSA I’d probably try and write a .asoundrc file that sorta creates a dummy device with the ins and outs of both of them and stick it in your home directory but that’s beyond me. Are you sure 2 SC will do? Cause I don’t want to buy two and than see that it doesnt work … 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Cook](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex001/user_avatar/forum.djtechtools.com/cook/32/12480_2.png) [@Cook](https://forum.djtechtools.com/u/Cook)\ **Post date:** [July 9, 2012, 2:48pm UTC](https://forum.djtechtools.com/t/audio-10-xone-2d/44335/15 "2012-07-09T14:48:50Z")
> [@djAB3](#): > > how can you aggregate them? Audio/midi setup, new device, select both soundcards, agregate into one. i use it for all my bluetooth adaptors about my house. Dunno how well it would work in a DJ situation though, and if there would be lagging or not. plus you would have to use both your usb ports just for sound. ---
**Author:** ![Cook](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex001/user_avatar/forum.djtechtools.com/cook/32/12480_2.png) [@Cook](https://forum.djtechtools.com/u/Cook)\ **Post date:** [July 9, 2012, 2:49pm UTC](https://forum.djtechtools.com/t/audio-10-xone-2d/44335/16 "2012-07-09T14:49:39Z")
> [@WastedYouth](#): > > Are you sure 2 SC will do? Cause I don’t want to buy two and than see that it doesnt work … 🙂 Your really better off going with the 2D setup mate. you can get em used for dirt cheap these days ---
**Author:** ![synthet1c](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex001/user_avatar/forum.djtechtools.com/synthet1c/32/14071_2.png) [@synthet1c](https://forum.djtechtools.com/u/synthet1c)\ **Post date:** [July 9, 2012, 2:59pm UTC](https://forum.djtechtools.com/t/audio-10-xone-2d/44335/17 "2012-07-09T14:59:50Z")
couldn’t you just rename them 2D (not certified) to a 3D (same soundcard but certified) in the registry the same way ghetto timecode worked… ---
**Author:** ![Cook](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex001/user_avatar/forum.djtechtools.com/cook/32/12480_2.png) [@Cook](https://forum.djtechtools.com/u/Cook)\ **Post date:** [July 9, 2012, 3:01pm UTC](https://forum.djtechtools.com/t/audio-10-xone-2d/44335/18 "2012-07-09T15:01:29Z")
wasnt that bug fixed ? ---
**Author:** ![synthet1c](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex001/user_avatar/forum.djtechtools.com/synthet1c/32/14071_2.png) [@synthet1c](https://forum.djtechtools.com/u/synthet1c)\ **Post date:** [July 9, 2012, 3:34pm UTC](https://forum.djtechtools.com/t/audio-10-xone-2d/44335/19 "2012-07-09T15:34:47Z")
don’t know I don’t use traktor, but it might be a reasonably good way of getting tsp timecode using a better soundcard and get some extra controls at the same time 2D vid=“0x0A4A” pid=“0xFF01” drivername=“XONE:2D WDM Midi 2.9.13” macdrivername=“Allen&Heath Xone:2D” 4D vid=“0x0A4A” pid=“0xFF4D” drivername=“XONE:4D WDM Midi 2.9.13” macdrivername=“Allen&Heath Xone:4D” Actually maybe it won’t work as the product id is different, but that is only for the midi, not the soundcard. ---
**Author:** ![MrPopinjay](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex001/user_avatar/forum.djtechtools.com/mrpopinjay/32/14471_2.png) [@MrPopinjay](https://forum.djtechtools.com/u/MrPopinjay)\ **Post date:** [July 9, 2012, 5:12pm UTC](https://forum.djtechtools.com/t/audio-10-xone-2d/44335/20 "2012-07-09T17:12:15Z")
I’ve used multiple soundcards to DJ with and not had any problems at all, so it can work just fine 🙂 If you can find a 2D cheap jump on that, they are cool. [Next page](https://forum.djtechtools.com/t/audio-10-xone-2d/44335.md?page=2)