It’s really becoming evident of how big acts like Deadmau5 are .. I don’t want to say ruining, but drawing outside attention, to my beloved music. No hatred to Deadmau5 personally as I know it’s his job and the more people listening to you the more cash you’re bringing in, gotta make a living after all.
It’s kind of like a double edged sword for me: In one way I want/need people to accept electronic music so that I can have an audience that wants to hear the music I play. But on the other hand I feel like there are so many bandwagon/posers coming out of the woodwork recently it’s almost scary how fast it’s happening (This is the US just to clarify)
I was playing a party last night and threw on Dirty Disco Youth remix of Ghosts n Stuff .. cause its a big song right now and I like that remix. Instantly a kid comes up and says “Hey! You like Deadmau5?!?” … “No not really, I think he is pretty boring” Which is honestly how I feel … The kid was almost taken aback that I wasn’t like “Yeah dude can’t get enough Deadmau5!!” I just felt like shaking my head in annoyance haha. Call me a hater, but its just starting to annoy me.
Am I alone here? Or is anyone else feeling the same way?
It’s like how ‘warp’ completely ruined the bloody beetroots for so many of us. Sure, sold 100,000 singles and made them the most sought-after act for about a year, but every c*nt is now like ‘oh do you know the bloody beetroots they’re sick’ etc..
I don’t want to seem like I only like artists because other people don’t know about them to make me feel special or whatever, but it’s more annoying when the ‘bandwagoner’s’ jump all over something you’ve been following for ages when they don’t really know anything about the genre and such..
I don’t know, you’re right that without underground acts seeping into mainstream a lot of what dj’s play wouldn’t be accepted and we’d be stuck playing top 40 trash..
The worst part about it is that after something gets popular you go to see a show and there are 5,000 teeny boppers in the way, off their tits waiting to hear the one song they know
Yeah true about the Beetroots as well, I don’t know why it even matters, but it almost seems like a group becomes tarnished when they hit the big time audience … It’s stupid to feel that way but that’s the way it is for some of us I guess.
I know that music is just about having a good time, and I feel bad hating on other people enjoying the music … but I just can’t help but be annoyed at times when you interact with someone you clearly know doesn’t really take the time to understand the music or where it came from. That’s just my personal feelings on the matter.
I’ve noticed that most everyone needs some kind of a bridge to get into electronic dance music. So whenever they find one and want to talk to me about it, I like to hip them to two-three other names that can bring them deeper down the rabbit hole with us…
Hallicious, I’m all for introducing people to electronic music who care to know and actually want to delve deeper into the genre(s) but I feel like 95% of those people who are getting into the music now are not that way … that they are just flowing with the trend.
In the Midwestern US, 15 years ago it was progressive trance that was getting people into “the scene” then it was Hard House/Trance/NRG , (though I may have imagined that for the US, I was overseas in the military for 5 years and I noticed them happening abroad)and then it was really popular Genre… and now it’s deadmau5, really the guy makes good tunes but it is just plain boring to me… Nothing wrong with people liking something, and by extension playing something that your dancefloor wants to hear (which too many djs forget) and there will always be a place for the “Gateway” sounds.
So you don’t want people listening to the music you play unless they have put their homework in?
Everyone has to start somewhere with their love of a genre. I had it myself recently when I discovered dubstep. All I was listening to was Caspa. From Caspa I moved on to listening to many other artists and styles of dubstep, but it all started from 1 artist.
Even if the crowd don’t have a love and respect for all the music you are playing, isn’t it better to have a crowd than not have 1?
That’s bullshit. The thread is more about people who just jump on trends really. And the OP (and me) get pissed when you’ve been bumping a genre and appreciate it for heaps of different reasons and then it becomes popular with people who don’t really care about it, and only like it because it cool to like it now or whatever (I guess).
that varies for me, once some hit big time they change their sound a bit, if i like the change it’s all good, if not i don’t pay them anymore attention (pendulum for example)
Theres no bandwagon. People hear about music in different ways.
Some people seek out new music. Most people wait for music to come to them by it getting big. Not everyone spends a lot of time looking for exciting new music like we do.
You cant call the average person a bandwagonner just cus they only follow an artist when he gets big… That is music snobbery.
Thats a bit like a Cinema Lover saying that people are bandwagonners if they wait for a movie to come to terrestrial TV and not going to the Cinema to see them.
Are people that see movies on SKY TV or Cable slightly cooler than people that wait for free terrestrial/network tv showings.
Make sense..? (rhetorical)
What you can be sure of is that there are MILLIONS of other people saying the same as the OP… That exclusivity that you feel is absolutely none existent.
Deadmau5, for instance, was massive way before he impacted on the charts or was to be heard on adverts.
That underground or niche music you listen to is also being listened to by millions of others.
If you have heard of it what makes you think that other people havent..?
Unless you are are on the absolute cutting edge you can be pretty sure everyone else is as ‘down’ as you.
Thing is something is only cutting edge for a matter of days until it gets blogged and then everyone has it.
Dont blame the idiots that only listens to Deadmau5 and no other EDM… Blame Deadmau5 for making music that appeals to the broader mass.
I dont blame anyone cus im too old to care about exclusivity.
Pendulum are a great example for this. Hit the big time, people who didnt even know what drum and bass was were like yea i love drum and bass. Then they totally changed their sound to fit with the newly found fan base.
Fair enough they are making a living and they are adapting to the market but its a shame when its not for the better (although thats obviously my opinion).
But maybe Pendulum are just adapting their sound to something that they have grown into.
Maybe they are tired of doing the same D&B thing…
They dont have to have changed to fit a new crowd… Maybe the change is something they want to do and its just appealing to more people.
Just like people grow out of one kind of music, so do artists.
The older you get, the broader your horizons get. You dont just want to hear arse-tearing D&B…
Obviously Pendulum are now being called Sell Outs and are pandering to the Charts and the mass music market.
Maybe they are but i think its kinda naive to think that an artist is gonna repeatedly make thieir first album for the same people.
Those same people will move on and discover new music so eventually Pendulums fanbase will change anyway.
Maybe, just maybe Pendulum have grown up a bit..? LOL.
< angry about Pendulum. I followed them from the beginning, and realize their history as more rock centric from the get go, and they edged out to do some D&B. I don’t particularly care for some of their newer stuff, and I’m okay with it. They don’t want to cater to my viewpoint, which is fine.
I know what you mean. The BIGGEST SINGLE INFLUENCE that has happened with any of my friends, and myself, is going to a a BIG SHOW. Take ULTRA or STARSCAPE for example.
The big thing about EDM, is that a lot of people can’t put their mind around putting it in context. When I’ve brought friends to big shows, I won’t lie, it’s changed their lives musically. I have a few friends who were mau5heads, and once they went to a show, that’s why and when they started putting in their homework.
Thats the thing, its fine to go off a band when they change direction.
Neither the band nor the fan owes the other anything… They both move as they see fit…
Also re: post at top of page.
How do you “care about” a genre..? You like it, you buy it. You dont like it you dont buy it… How is anyone more caring about a Genre than by buying the music…
Do you stroke your CD collection..? Again its a total misconception about the mass music buying public.
Its not us (or rather you) and them.
