Beatgrid Drifting Track

Beatgrid Drifting Track

Hey everyone!

Running into a problem with a track that I bought from Beatport. I mix with Traktor and the track drifts on and off from the grid. I tried fixing the track in Ableton but just have a few questions:

Should I warp the track in “Beats”? (it’s a standard 4/4 track)
and
Would setting warp markers be the best way to fix it??

Thanks for advanced

-A

Warp it in Live. Keep it at the original tempo, and use Complex or Complex Pro warp mode.

Render to disc, them beatgrid in Traktor. That should be easy seeing as you’ve already fixed the tempo in Live.

just drop another grid marker further on in the track. IMO if you are going to the trouble of warping your tunes, you may as well use ableton for dj’ing as well :slight_smile:

Agreed. Either that, or just brush up on good old fashioned manual beat matching :wink:.
I have a few of these in my set… It keeps me paying attention :slight_smile:

You can very often find a part of the intro that grids perfectly. Place a grid and a loop on that part.
Then drop a second grid on the outro of the track where the grid lines up perfectly, remember you cannot adjust the grid as you will undo the first. Then drop a loop on where that grid marker is.

There you have a sync-able intro and outro on a track with a fluctuating BPM. A good example of this is MJ’s - Billie Jean, its drifts but theres a sweet spot at the start where a 4 beat loop works perfectly and again at the end.

Very old trick.

Fixed that for ya, homie! :thumbsup:

Exacly, I do it everytime I find a non-constant BPM track, when you get used to it it won’t take more than 2 minutes.

We need 'Like’s under posts on this forum.:slight_smile:

Agree.

I mean “like”.

I mean “up rep”…

Ok so I tried a few different ways to warp it in Ableton and this track is nothing but trouble. The drift comes in and out multiple times and when I warp it, it sounds funny at some points because it’s not a full 4/4 count. Maybe I’m just doing it wrong. Anyone know of a guide?

Track? Genre? Time signtaure?

Post it up and we can take a look at it…

Is it against forum rules to share a track?? I’m on the subway now but can post it when I get home.
Does zippyshare work??

Use PM’s for that please, no public links :slight_smile:

Send me the zippyshare link via PM

So I fixed the track and sent it.

What you gotta understand about warping is that you can add warp markers to every single beat of the track, and doing that it will get absolutely perfect. But it will take hours. So you gotta find the error spots and solve them with warp markers, leaving the “stable” areas with no warp markers. So it will take minutes.

The track was very unstable and bending + and - on random places which is not common, but the beats are very clear so it wasn’t hard at all.

Hope I helped.

Thank you so much!

Now looking at the Ableton file, just curious…Did you Warp the track “Straight” after the first marker and then added the new points??

Yes, I always do it this way. But there is no such a thing as a “General Warping Procedure”, there are too much variants. If you are warping the track you are doing it because a human did something “wrong”. the person may have erred in many ways, so you gotta kind of understand what were the mistakes and solve them.

You should always think of warp markers as clamped points. Those points won’t move if you don’t touch them, so if you get two clamped points and move just one of them the track between them will deform.

The only way to dominate it is doing it hundreds of times. Like how you dominate the procedure of finding the perfect spot of the downbeat.