# Beatgrid on Traktor oldschool electronic music ! **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Tags:** beatgrid-oldschool\ **Created:** [July 19, 2011, 10:37pm UTC](https://forum.djtechtools.com/t/beatgrid-on-traktor-oldschool-electronic-music/27328 "2011-07-19T22:37:27Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![disco420](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/9f8e36/32.png) [@disco420](https://forum.djtechtools.com/u/disco420)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2011, 10:37pm UTC](https://forum.djtechtools.com/t/beatgrid-on-traktor-oldschool-electronic-music/27328/1 "2011-07-19T22:37:27Z")
**Beatgrid on Traktor oldschool electronic music !** Hello everybody, sorry for my english i’m doing the best that i can, i’m new in this forum, nice site and forum keep rockin all ! so my point is… I’m in love with eletronic music, especialy classic oldschool house and disco, and i wanna start a discussion here about beatgrid on traktor pro 2, what yours experience about beatgrid this kind of music in traktor pro 2 ? sounds of bands and projects like Chic, Sister Sledge, Skyy, Instand Funk, Orlando Johnson, Change, musics of Salsoul Records, (some examples), and anothers old school flavours like Chicago House and Italodisco, some old school hip-hop to, im talkin about of purchased musics .WAV files in stores like Juno and Beatport, i’m worried , I’m worried because some people say that kind of music it’s very difcult to beatgrided and some is impossible, and i have a huge collection of this sounds, I have not had the opportunity to make full potentials of the software, I think about buying it but would like to know the experiences from someone on this subject of Beatgrid this kind of music That I love so much, thanks to everybody ! ---
**Author:** ![dj\_stifffy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/d78d45/32.png) [@dj\_stifffy](https://forum.djtechtools.com/u/dj_stifffy)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2011, 11:26pm UTC](https://forum.djtechtools.com/t/beatgrid-on-traktor-oldschool-electronic-music/27328/2 "2011-07-19T23:26:55Z")
Use the search button or even youtube, this shit is everywhere ---
**Author:** ![disco420](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/9f8e36/32.png) [@disco420](https://forum.djtechtools.com/u/disco420)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2011, 12:38am UTC](https://forum.djtechtools.com/t/beatgrid-on-traktor-oldschool-electronic-music/27328/3 "2011-07-20T00:38:02Z")
> [@dj\_stifffy](#): > > Use the search button or even youtube, this shit is everywhere Hey man, i think you dont understand me, i dont found many reports about experiences of djs who play a lot of oldschool disco and house on traktor pro 2 (not traktor scratch), but i think they exist, a lot of djs who like to play this styles and stoped play with vinyl for some reasons dont stop to play this type of music because the dificult or sometimes impossible beatgrid, i wanna know and share this experiences about this, how difficult is ? if it’s really impossible to beatgrid some musics like this. ---
**Author:** ![photojojo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex001/user_avatar/forum.djtechtools.com/photojojo/32/14618_2.png) [@photojojo](https://forum.djtechtools.com/u/photojojo)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2011, 12:56am UTC](https://forum.djtechtools.com/t/beatgrid-on-traktor-oldschool-electronic-music/27328/4 "2011-07-20T00:56:48Z")
Live bands are nearly impossible to beatgrid in Traktor unless the drummer is spot on. You can warp them in Ableton first, but you risk losing some of the feel. Here’s a nice write up Ean did on make custom edits of these tracks. > **[Custom Edits of Classic Tracks in Ableton – Pt. 1](https://djtechtools.com/2011/02/16/custom-edits-of-classic-tracks-in-ableton-pt-1/)** > > Modern DJ software has nearly every feature you could ever want, but very few (other than Torq) offer the ability to ---
**Author:** ![disco420](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/9f8e36/32.png) [@disco420](https://forum.djtechtools.com/u/disco420)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2011, 1:08am UTC](https://forum.djtechtools.com/t/beatgrid-on-traktor-oldschool-electronic-music/27328/5 "2011-07-20T01:08:31Z")
> [@photojojo](#): > > Live bands are nearly impossible to beatgrid in Traktor unless the drummer is spot on. You can warp them in Ableton first, but you risk losing some of the feel. > > Here’s a nice write up Ean did on make custom edits of these tracks. > [Custom Edits of Classic Tracks in Ableton – Pt. 1](http://www.djtechtools.com/2011/02/16/custom-edits-of-classic-tracks-in-ableton-pt-1/) Hmm thanks man, but check this out, when you talkin about a live band song, you mean a song recorded in a live show, or you are talkin about just a band song recorded in studio, not eletronic music, like the studio version of Chic - Good Times, for example, is it impossible to beatgrid this track ? And a classic disco music what is not eletronical totally, but is not totally a acustic band to, the beatgrid works ? ---
**Author:** ![disco420](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/9f8e36/32.png) [@disco420](https://forum.djtechtools.com/u/disco420)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2011, 1:31am UTC](https://forum.djtechtools.com/t/beatgrid-on-traktor-oldschool-electronic-music/27328/6 "2011-07-20T01:31:20Z")
Hmmmmmmm but i can beatgrid just the part that i want to mix ? its work ? ---
**Author:** ![zestoi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex001/user_avatar/forum.djtechtools.com/zestoi/32/13946_2.png) [@zestoi](https://forum.djtechtools.com/u/zestoi)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2011, 1:55am UTC](https://forum.djtechtools.com/t/beatgrid-on-traktor-oldschool-electronic-music/27328/7 "2011-07-20T01:55:40Z")
> [@disco420](#): > > Hmmmmmmm but i can beatgrid just the part that i want to mix ? its work ? as photojojo said… first warp in ableton… beat gridding in traktor is pretty limitted. i guess you _could_ beat grid it so that the part of the song u want is gridded fairly ok - but anything not driven by “an electronic drummer” is going to drift all the time pretty much. ---
**Author:** ![Paka\_Ono](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex001/user_avatar/forum.djtechtools.com/paka_ono/32/15435_2.png) [@Paka\_Ono](https://forum.djtechtools.com/u/Paka_Ono)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2011, 1:55am UTC](https://forum.djtechtools.com/t/beatgrid-on-traktor-oldschool-electronic-music/27328/8 "2011-07-20T01:55:51Z")
It’s the live drummer. Any song with a live drummer will have tempo swings. Unless they used a click track/metronome when it was recorded. ---
**Author:** ![JesC](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex001/user_avatar/forum.djtechtools.com/jesc/32/10376_2.png) [@JesC](https://forum.djtechtools.com/u/JesC)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2011, 2:09am UTC](https://forum.djtechtools.com/t/beatgrid-on-traktor-oldschool-electronic-music/27328/9 "2011-07-20T02:09:51Z")
its not worth trying to grid or warp the whole track, just make the adjustment on the turntable, cdj, or what ever your using. ---
**Author:** ![Hippie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/ac8455/32.png) [@Hippie](https://forum.djtechtools.com/u/Hippie)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2011, 3:17am UTC](https://forum.djtechtools.com/t/beatgrid-on-traktor-oldschool-electronic-music/27328/10 "2011-07-20T03:17:07Z")
It depends on the track tbqh. Sometimes you can set a loose grid where the track will fluctuate and either be a little ahead or behind the grid. These aren’t too difficult to mix as you can just bend the pitch a little to sync the tracks. Another option is to set a grid at the start of the track where you’ll be starting your transition and set another grid marker towards the end of the track where you want to transition again, if the start and finish BPM are about the same, and not worrying about the grid in the middle. Some of Traktor’s FX are linked to the beat grid tho so they won’t sound quite right if the grid isn’t right. I tend to use the tap button, as and when I need it. The grid is usually close enough for a few bars, which is long enough for me to work with. Having buttons mapped to be able to move and change the grid on the fly can be handy, tbh tho I just tap in the beat again if it fluctuates. ---
**Author:** ![ToOntown](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/a698b9/32.png) [@ToOntown](https://forum.djtechtools.com/u/ToOntown)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2011, 3:40am UTC](https://forum.djtechtools.com/t/beatgrid-on-traktor-oldschool-electronic-music/27328/11 "2011-07-20T03:40:46Z")
> [@disco420](#): > > Hey man, i think you dont understand me, i dont found many reports about experiences of djs who play a lot of oldschool disco and house on traktor pro 2 (not traktor scratch), but i think they exist, a lot of djs who like to play this styles and stoped play with vinyl for some reasons dont stop to play this type of music because the dificult or sometimes impossible beatgrid, i wanna know and share this experiences about this, how difficult is ? if it’s really impossible to beatgrid some musics like this. Dig this my main man. I think he digs you. What you need to dig is that there be a lot of info in these forums and YouTube about this shit. You just be seein’ what yo internet done feel like, right baby bubba? There ain’t no secret to Beatgridding the classics, man. Either you warp them in Ableton, Beatgrid the parts you be mixin’, or you beatmatch and nudge like the jive turkeys did back in the day. Ya dig? ---
**Author:** ![ToOntown](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/a698b9/32.png) [@ToOntown](https://forum.djtechtools.com/u/ToOntown)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2011, 3:44am UTC](https://forum.djtechtools.com/t/beatgrid-on-traktor-oldschool-electronic-music/27328/12 "2011-07-20T03:44:56Z")
> [@photojojo](#): > > Live bands are nearly impossible to beatgrid in Traktor unless the drummer is spot on. You can warp them in Ableton first, but you risk losing some of the feel. > > Here’s a nice write up Ean did on make custom edits of these tracks. > [Custom Edits of Classic Tracks in Ableton – Pt. 1](http://www.djtechtools.com/2011/02/16/custom-edits-of-classic-tracks-in-ableton-pt-1/) He never did part 2! Come on, Ean!!! You slacker! 😃 ---
**Author:** ![disco420](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/9f8e36/32.png) [@disco420](https://forum.djtechtools.com/u/disco420)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2011, 1:23pm UTC](https://forum.djtechtools.com/t/beatgrid-on-traktor-oldschool-electronic-music/27328/13 "2011-07-20T13:23:07Z")
Interesitng, i think just beatgrid the loop i want to mix, not the whole music, is the best solution, so, that’s the process right ? ![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex001/uploads/techtools/optimized/3X/a/6/a64dd565161c362df4654298212d5cff71774ff6_2_690x388.jpeg)https://www.youtube.com/embed/AM5grEYiEcU?feature=oembed&wmode=opaque&list=PL0FB3B5E6A7F3BC3D ---
**Author:** ![disco420](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/9f8e36/32.png) [@disco420](https://forum.djtechtools.com/u/disco420)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2011, 3:43pm UTC](https://forum.djtechtools.com/t/beatgrid-on-traktor-oldschool-electronic-music/27328/14 "2011-07-20T15:43:13Z")
But whit this solution of just beatgrid the loop i want to mix, i can’t use efx, on the parts of the track that i dont beatgrided because the bpm variation in this parts right ?? ---
**Author:** ![Nicky\_H](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex001/user_avatar/forum.djtechtools.com/nicky_h/32/109_2.png) [@Nicky\_H](https://forum.djtechtools.com/u/Nicky_H)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2011, 5:27pm UTC](https://forum.djtechtools.com/t/beatgrid-on-traktor-oldschool-electronic-music/27328/15 "2011-07-20T17:27:32Z")
> [@disco420](#): > > But whit this solution of just beatgrid the loop i want to mix, i can’t use efx, on the parts of the track that i dont beatgrided because the bpm variation in this parts right ?? Right 🙂 Well you can use them but any tempo- related ones will be a bit out of sync. Buy a controller with pitch faders and jog wheels and [ame=“[Beatmatching - Wikipedia](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beatmatching)”]Beatmatching - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia[/ame] ---
**Author:** ![disco420](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/9f8e36/32.png) [@disco420](https://forum.djtechtools.com/u/disco420)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2011, 6:03pm UTC](https://forum.djtechtools.com/t/beatgrid-on-traktor-oldschool-electronic-music/27328/16 "2011-07-20T18:03:52Z")
> [@Nicky\_H](#): > > Right 🙂 > > Well you can use them but any tempo- related ones will be a bit out of sync. > > Buy a controller with pitch faders and jog wheels and Beatmatching - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia hey man, i test some old disco tracks not beatgrided like Double Exposure-My Love Is Free on the software traktor demo, and appear to me that effefcts work normally, like flangers, filters, and some echos, the problem will arise if i beatgrid only one part of the track (like the part i want to mix), and when i use the efects on the part not beatgrided they will work totally out of tempo ? is this ? ---
**Author:** ![Nicky\_H](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex001/user_avatar/forum.djtechtools.com/nicky_h/32/109_2.png) [@Nicky\_H](https://forum.djtechtools.com/u/Nicky_H)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2011, 7:18pm UTC](https://forum.djtechtools.com/t/beatgrid-on-traktor-oldschool-electronic-music/27328/17 "2011-07-20T19:18:02Z")
> [@disco420](#): > > hey man, i test some old disco tracks not beatgrided like Double Exposure-My Love Is Free on the software traktor demo, and appear to me that effefcts work normally, like flangers, filters, and some echos, the problem will arise if i beatgrid only one part of the track (like the part i want to mix), and when i use the efects on the part not beatgrided they will work totally out of tempo ? is this ? Even if you make it so _only a part_ of the track is correctly gridded, the beatgrid is still there _throughout the song_. The effects will match the grid, so it depends how far out of sync the grid is when you apply the effect. ---
**Author:** ![disco420](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/9f8e36/32.png) [@disco420](https://forum.djtechtools.com/u/disco420)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2011, 7:23pm UTC](https://forum.djtechtools.com/t/beatgrid-on-traktor-oldschool-electronic-music/27328/18 "2011-07-20T19:23:42Z")
> [@Nicky\_H](#): > > Even if you make it so _only a part_ of the track is correctly gridded, the beatgrid is still there _throughout the song_. > The effects will match the grid, so it depends how far out of sync the grid is when you apply the effect. hmmm im se, so its not a rule, tracks with tempo variation effects work horrible right ? with a little tempo variations, i can use effects because it’s not too noticiable this little variation in a effect right ? ---
**Author:** ![Nicky\_H](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex001/user_avatar/forum.djtechtools.com/nicky_h/32/109_2.png) [@Nicky\_H](https://forum.djtechtools.com/u/Nicky_H)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2011, 7:31pm UTC](https://forum.djtechtools.com/t/beatgrid-on-traktor-oldschool-electronic-music/27328/19 "2011-07-20T19:31:55Z")
Not saying it will sound horrible - just not perfectly in sync - only the effects that use timing though - Delay, Gater etc.. ---
**Author:** ![disco420](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/9f8e36/32.png) [@disco420](https://forum.djtechtools.com/u/disco420)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2011, 7:48pm UTC](https://forum.djtechtools.com/t/beatgrid-on-traktor-oldschool-electronic-music/27328/20 "2011-07-20T19:48:11Z")
Im understand now, thanks alot, well i think i will buy traktor, and how i dont have money to use s4, i will with 2 kontrol x1, and for mixing my disco stuff i will do that thing, loop the mix points e beatgrid and then, i think it will be nice 😃 [Next page](https://forum.djtechtools.com/t/beatgrid-on-traktor-oldschool-electronic-music/27328.md?page=2)